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That style sounds good, and LeBeau and JJ are for sure legends, but you really need some dawgs for that style to flourish I believe. The LeBeau style seems to need some dominant pass rushers, and JJ's style tends to need a dominant secondary and MLB. What happens when you have neither? What happens when you have league average talent at every position? Bend but don't break starts to make a lot of sense in that scenario. Maybe he'll get more aggressive as we add talent to the Defense.

Underrated point. Hurts had an MVP favorite in the backfield. All-Pro as his #1 and a 1b as his #2 along with a top offensive line and imo Bryce played better. That’s of course not to say Young>Hurts, that’s nonsense at this point. I’m simply saying that’s important to keep in mind that he’s doing what he’s doing with a below average supporting cast.

Him turning it around will be a huge benefit to this franchise whether he ends up being the guy or not. Had he not turned it around, we would have inevitably spent our 1st round pick on a QB and I'm not in love with ANY QB in this draft. So he gives us another year. We get more weapons, we get healthy players back, we solidify the defense and if he's a true franchise guy we will see it next year and if he's not we draft his replacement in 2025.

And then traded up to do it. Just doesn't make sense.

If I'm a GM, I'm not taking a RB in the first two rounds unless they are a transcendent talent. Brooks was good, but nowhere near transcendent.

Ouch. 1st, I feel bad for the kid. 2nd. Dumb decision my Morgan, and I felt that way when he was drafted.

Hmm. How do yall feel about that blitz on 3rd and long? aggressiveness is something I usually root for but I don’t know.

A Great Online and a QB who has some escapeability for when it's needed seems to be a deadly combination.

I don't know what caused the turnaround but it is fascinating. I'll tell you what though, if his turnaround is as legit as we all hope, he's going to be the poster boy for every franchise in the next ten years who drafts a QB who struggles early on. "Just give him some time, remember what happened with Bryce." I think his example will create a patience in fans and front offices that hasn't been there recently. There had already been a slight shift in terms of how media and fans think of young QB's coming into the league. How the Bust label is written on them prematurely, and how organizational competence has a lot more to do with the Busts and successes than we realize. We see what Mayfield is doing and then look at the current Browns. We see what Darnold is doing and look at the current Jets. Neither one are surefire Franchise guys necessarily, but they are proof that organizational competence + time often turn what one deems to be a bust into QB's you can win with.

For those that think we should trade him. What do you think a good deal would be now? Prior to the last couple of weeks I would have taken a bag of chips but now I would want at least a 3rd. I mean Darnold went for a 2nd…

I saw him being supportive. He was on the sideline jumping up and down when we got the interception. Maybe there were other shots of him pouting that I missed.

This what I was about to say.. People are going to talk about the greatness of Mahomes and company, and rightly so, but that muffed punt was the biggest play of the game. It was in the 3rd quarter of a game that went into OT so no one is going to talk about it.

He's playing a tough D. Didn't Mahomes have a similar drought in the middle of this game?

Yeah I was thinking he was the assistant under Gettlemen. Not that he was necessarily bad either.

I was talking about Gettlemen. He was assistant under Gettlemen right? Have I mixed up something?