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Josh McDaniels is not a good HC.....look at his tenure with the Broncos. Also, he traded away Jay Cutler and drafted T. The Golden Calf of Bristol in round 1. Now he released Carr and got nothing in return. I would not put too much stock in how Carr performed last year. When Gruden was the coach he was a solid QB...if the price is right.

What's a Cooter?

Is Corral even going to be healthy by training camp? That was a pretty nasty injury if I recall correctly.

Could be. I don’t follow the Vikings but know they were 13-4 last year and have a very good offense and a better than average QB. I do think Reich is going to turn things around for the Panthers….when he gets a QB.

If he wants money I think the Panthers win. If he wants to help build a young team nucleus to be consistent winners in the future then the Panthers win. If he wants to be on a more complete team that is competing for championships now than the Vikings win.

First world problems for Rhule. He should be embarrassed at the product he provided and should refund the fans.

Does anyone even have a health update on Corral? His injury seemed pretty serious. Was wondering if he will even be healthy enough to play.....

https://247wallst.com/media/2022/01/20/the-nfl-teams-with-the-largest-tv-market-are-the-giants-and-jets/ The Carolina Panthers are #21 out of 32. I don't think that is the reason they cannot win. Look at the teams above Carolina that also lose a lot (Browns, Lions, Texans, Cardinals, Jets, and Falcons). In comparison, look at the teams in markets similar or smaller than Carolina (Packers, Steelers, Ravens, Chiefs). Players will go where they get paid and/or who the coach is. Tepper has a great opportunity to 'pick the right coach' this time. Let's hope he gets it right.....this will bring wins to the Carolina Panthers.

I get that the Saints get compensation in draft picks, but would it not be better for them to get those draft picks from another team not in the NFC South (IE - Denver, Houston, Indy)? It would be like the Panthers trading CMC to the Saints and have to face him twice per year/every year. For the Panthers, this team still needs a lot: QB, DE, DT, TE, WR, depth and etc....do not see how they build a team without the picks they are supposedly giving for Payton. I sure hope this is a smokescreen, and Tepper is not doing this. I am fine with Payton the coach, but I do not think he is worth what it will cost to get him.

Why would the Saints allow their 'ex-admired, Super Bowl coach' go to a division rival?

If I’m not mistaken, there has also been a lot of injuries to the defense in the second half….especially to the secondary but also on the d-line. Also, I’m going to guess that if Wilks is retained, then we will see a lot of new players coming in to the defense…specifically in the d-line and LB’s. I recall an article that indicated that Wilks did not think the d-like was heavy enough and also thought Snow was running a college defense which indicates he did not agree with the players chosen.

I wish Horn was healthy

I believe Chinn hit him and caused the injury.

Rhule could not develop a rookie QB. Look at how Corral was handled. He was trying to take the easy way out with failed QB’s from other teams…Teddy, Sam, Baker. It is amazing how each QB was worse than the one before. The guy was completely clueless on how to manage an NFL team.

The Redskins did this when drafting RG3 and Cousins in the same draft. Crazy that Cousins was the 4th rounder and RG3 was the first. Also crazy they let Cousins go.

Agree with OP. Cam's rookie season in comparison to what we have now: Williams and Stewart for RB, #89, Greg, and Shockey along with a solid O-line (Gross, Wharton, Kalil). #89 had over 1,300 yards in Cam's rookie year. Any rookie QB thrown into this current offense would not be successful. Whoever they are targeting to be QB next year, they better start by getting him some weapons.

Yeah, look at the Super Bowl winners from last year.....LA Rams. They are 4-9 this year. There are no guarantees when parity reins.

There are so many to bad decisions to choose from. Just to be different, I will add a few from what was already said: 1. Keep Tyler Heinicke. Not a superstar but definitely playing better than any Panther QB has played in years. 2. Keep Gano.....How many kickers have the Panthers burned through since they cut Gano? 3. Don't trade for Darnold. If Heinicke was signed it would not have been necessary.

Andy Reid, Bill Belichick, Tony Dungy and Pete Carroll were retreads after they got fired from their prior HC jobs. And all won superbowls with their new teams.

Definitely a Panthers strength. The Gross, Wharton, Khalil, Otah line was pretty strong in 2008 too.

I actually think the Panthers handled Cam the right way in his first season. Chud was a great OC for him and they brought in Olsen and Shockey along with a great running game (Williams and Stewart) and a good O-line. After year one the plan seemed to have fallen away...but that first year it was a good transition from college to NFL for Cam.

This defensive scheme was not successful with Rhule/Snow. The entire team was terrible today. New coaches will be here in January

This season is a lost cause. They are trying to win with fired coaches players that don’t fit the scheme they want to run. Nobody can defend what we saw today but it does not matter as a new regime will start in January.

If I’m not mistaken, I read somewhere that Wilks did not agree with the defense Snow built…one reason was he thought they were too light and needed more size.

Did Tepper re-hire Rhule?