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I agree on Richardson's ceiling with how the NFL is tending. He's doing what Darnold is doing but with an infinitely higher ceiling. My problem isn't just the bust part, i can live with that. It's what it'll do to the team if he DOESN'T fit. D.J.'s getting older. Moton's getting older. Brian's gonna have to be paid for better or worse. Ickey, Horn and DBs contracts will creep up. Missing now hurts more than anything else. That's not even counting the problems on offense he won't solve, he's more limited as a passer than Sam. Mediocrity becomes your ceiling when you become content with what you have. We shouldn't be. We should accept where we are and plan for it. We have nothing but risky dice rolls at QB moving forward. And one of those options is moving forward with a 2nd contract QB and acquiring talent around him to bolster his strengths and mask his weaknesses.

Sean McVay?

I'm happy for him, I'mma wait for highlights because idc to watch this and box score doesn't mean poo, but happy for him. He's a good dude.

I like Richardson a ton, he's kinda who I'm leaning towards because honestly I think he might end up a R1 (mid-late realistically but if DJ can go top 10...) and if he does, you gotta play him sooner rather than later, and I can envision a future where he hits in this offense we have right now. However like I said, to act like his or Levis' floor arent insanely low is wild. They're both lower than Sam's based on the fact they have no NFL experience, let alone success, and already have bigger question marks than Sam did coming out. Even if even if my most optimistic ceiling for him is "Better Ryan Tannehill", it's still something you can win with, you just have to improve your offense around him, because you're not always gonna be playing the Broncos, Seahawks and Lions.

I'm not gonna lie and say I don't see some optimism for Sam's future development based on what he's shown me this stint. But it'd be foolish to bank solely on this. Two birds, one stone would be great. But I'm not gonna act like 1. That's feasible 2. His ceiling is super high. However at this point I also realize unless we add in some elite and solid offensive talent in general, this offense is gonna be stagnant, and any QB prospect at this point has as much boom or bust as Sam did coming out. Yes, a Mahomes tier talent would take us from Playoff contender to playoff Dark Horse, but you can argue an Derrick Henry or Justin Jefferson tier talent would do the same. It's faaaaaaaar harder to find a Mahomes tier talent. I will say I do like the potential of Levis and Richardson (the latter especially in our offense) but to act like they don't carry significant bust risk is delusional, and Wilsion shows us what having stagnant, bust QB does to a locker room.

Ravens, 49ers, Titans are all both playoff teams and super bowl contending teams. Rams got to their first super bowl on the arthritten knees of Todd Gurley, and have a much better shot of wining it if his hereditary, degenerative condition doesn't take him out. Seahawks won 1 and made it to another off the back of a strong D and run game. We made it to the playoffs several times and a Super Bowl with a heavy focus on the run game. Vikings made it to numerous playoffs and took the corpse of Farve to the NFCCG off of the same formula. Sooooo

This reads like "It's not how I'd do it so there's no way to succeed." which is objectively false, lol.

That's cap! 49ers, Texans, Chiefs before Mahomes, Rams before Stafford, hell even the recent Eagles if you look at it from a certain angle all show that the team supporting the QB is just as important to winning. Hell we're learning that Russ was more a product of that run game and the LOB rather than being "the guy", his trick was he just was really good at improv, which fit the rest of that teams strengths. You're gonna tell me that winning didn't matter for those teams, especially since that winning laid the ground work for franchises like the 9ers and Chiefs. Likely the Titans too. Guys like Herbert show that even if you get your guy, it doesn't solve everything. And guys like Watson and Wilson show us that sometimes your situation makes your guy. Kirk and J.J. teach us that sometimes all a QB needs is that guy. What I've learned this season is that Winning is winning, and you have to build on that. That's how you carve an identity. Yes, passer is still a question mark, but we're not in a situation where we can likely get that franchise guy right now, but we're winning. Instead of trying to hard pivot to the extremely difficult task of finding that franchise, plug n play QB (note: this does not mean skip out on a QB in the first round if we like one) to get an elite passing game, we build on the strengths of our team. That way it's easier for a LOT of qbs to look better.

Bro I promise you most of these posters only care abt yardage and numbers and dont get what they're yelling abt. There's like 4 elite QBs in the NFL, all in the AFC, while the frontrunner for MVP was Jalen Hurts before he got hurt. Goff and Geno are having career years in Year 3 of their offenses and no one ever talks abt how much Kirk has improved in that offense(and with, ofc, JJ) Just keep shouting WE GOTTA HAVE A QB and ignore what building around a QB is.

That is one step, yes. Sam Darnold might be are starting quarterback next year. It's highly likely. Even if we draft and Levis or Richardson will be the starter -- or even better than Darnold long term (Zach sure as fug isn't, for example) . A retread like Carr would still have to learn the offense and develop chemistry with the team and even then he seems to be regressing. if Sam Darnold is our starting QB next year, you need to build an offense to support him.

No it won't. The Cowboys are a better team than us. i fully expect us to lose to whoever in the playoffs. That doesn't mean we do things at an NFL level and we should build on that.

We are a run first team. We have a good run blocking O-line. We have two very capable half backs with a third solid one to spell them. We have one good WR, one that is flashing but is obviously developing and learning the system, and on who gets smothered on routes down field, or Shi Smith. We have a 5th year QB who missed most of the season and is learning this offense. We are a run first team for more reasons than just Sam Darnold. More than Sam would have to improve for the passing game to get better. Why emphasize something we're bad at?

Ah man, I almost forgot abt "Baker needing snaps" lol. Maybe Rhule was right to drag that battle out a little longer lmao.

I really, really would love for you to elaborate on how we're playing with training wheels. Be it Sam Darnold or Matt Corral we're a run team. i fail to see how having Sam play in structure and hoping he continues to trend upwards is a bad thing. So maybe you're seeing something I'm not. Like this is coming from a guy who was on the tank train as much as you, but that train missed its stop. So we have to start looking on what we have and how we can get better at that, not bemoaning our situation.

So...he's developing? Weird t'start that off with no. i'm not saying Sam is gonna hit some elite ceiling but...he's making the right reads. He was doing it last week when we weren't running as well. In both wins and losses he's shown growth. That's development. Mcadoo can be both a bad OC but good long term for Sam.

This is just a random thought after watching former MVP frontrunner Carson Wentz struggle to be consistent because of flaws, and i don't feel like this warrants its own thread as I'm not even sold on running with this after a streak of two solid games. What would you be okay with betting on Sam Darnold if you feel you can get at worst a 2017 Bortles and at best a 2017 Wentz Like as we win you gotta look at all the options and if you're being real, sometimes its better to stick with the devil you do know. I feel if you know how to win with Sam (strong defense, strong running game) and you know he has the arm talent, and we have the o-line. I feel like a competent coach would help him even more.

I honestly expect both the Rams and the Cards to win today, but also like ...What gives you any indication that this draft is gonna be another 1-2-3 w/ QBs?

You don't know who Dionte Johnson is? Really?

Yeah pretty much. Steve really is just Ron 2.0. Even if we stumble into the playoffs we need to be like the Titans and oust him. Imagine if the Titans missed out on Vrabel for Mike Mularkey.

Give Blackshear more touches.

You can be mad at Keith Taylor, and rightfully so but he is who he is: a backup DB going against a really good route runner This is the type of game we miss DJax. Though i do worry how heated the talking match would be between these two.

why blitz on 3 and 14? dumb. leaving your secondary out to dry.

And to Darnold's credit, he stopped his scramble, reset and knew where there was an opening. Just no time to throw. no creativity in the redzone is our achilles heel. has been for 2+ years now.

Twice lol

The fug was that call I do not understand.