Carl Spackler

lol at this thread. Trash take.

FIFY

The OG was lowkey fire

Not bad, looks like the fifth-best option in the team store around 2009

I hope we get Marvin Austin and Jesse Holley

The dark chocolate raisinets are the best. Dark chocolate raisinets are just behind dark chocolate-covered espresso beans in Carl’s Candy World

Dude, I really like Raisinets

A box of Raisinets

But pie has a crust. And cheesecake has a crust.

What a bastard. So, question: Is cheesecake a pie or a cake?

What exactly makes Teddy a good backup? If you give him incredibly good weapons and an elite defense he can win you a game by going 13-19 for 56 yards

I still think we'll draft a QB at some point. PJ Walker is not good enough as a backup.

Friendly reminder for those in this thread who don’t remember: Teddy is dogshit

Even a slightly educated pessimist would believe that DJ Moore, Robby Anderson and Christian McCaffrey could be better weapons than La'Mical Perine, Breshad Perriman and Jamison Crowder.

I'd take Darnold and keeping our first over Lance/Fields and no first for the next two, three (hell, given it's Tepper, four) years.

Do you think he was put in a position to succeed with the New York Jets?

He's never once had the weapons he now has at his disposal. I'm predicting FAR fewer two-yard dump-offs on third and 6, at least. Not crazy about what we gave up, but we typically suck in the draft anyway, so it was worth kicking the tires on a guy who's never gotten a fair shake and who has some mobility as well as an arm.

Decent chance I saw her at the bars at some point, then Michael Dyer and Philip Lutzenkirchen were also fabulous players. Dyer was a freshman. Cam carried the offense, though, just as Fairley carried the defense.

7-9 is a pipe dream for us right now, sadly

I'll take Minshew over Teddy any day. But hopefully if we trade for him or Darnold, Tepper doesn't go brass balls and give up a first and a third

I thought we got him with a compensatory pick.

Poor memory then. Fun fact, Grier threw for more yards in his only full game than Clausen ever did here

These are common opinions here with absolutely nothing to back them up. For what it’s worth, we’d struggle with both for sure. But Grier’s first start saw us give up two punt return TDs, which he didn’t influence. Take those away and it’s 17-6. Add two short field goals instead of going for it on fourth down twice and it’s 17-12 with 5 mins left, despite throwing to Curtis Samuel, the immortal DeAndrew White and Brandon Zylstra. Oh and if you’d like to point out his interceptions that day, as I can tell you’re salivating over, remember that only one was his fault. Wright had a ball land in his hands and get stolen like a bad basketball player. Exact same thing with White late in the game. Remember, aggressive players try to win, like you said, so he was throwing deep. I mean, it’s not like your opinion can be swayed. I’m just offering some facts to point to the contrary that somehow he’s the worst QB we’ve ever had when his numbers were not very different from Walker’s.

Yes, a fourth-year pro made two really good deep throws and leaned on his defense and RB to win a game. Then, he was found out and regressed to unplayable. Spin it however you like, it's still fact.