kungfoodude

I mean, I blame Rod for every Freddie loss from now on.

Anytime he steps in the net, it's a loss. 

He has won 38.5% of his starts. 

That's insane for a 16-7-2 team.

5 minutes ago, cranky said:

LOL no I have watched the Panthers since their inception BUT I took a job up North for a couple of years so did miss a couple of seasons. It must have been around then.

It was 2007. Also, how did you not know they were related???

30 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Who knows with Lane Kiffin.

I honestly wouldn't want to go from college where I have full control and at a program like LSU where I have a major resources advantage and  an gobble upbekife recruits to the NFL where I'm going to be reporting to a GM with roster control and a more level playing field. 

It's beginning to be the same level of pressure but less commitment.

It's likely to just be an ego thing.

5 minutes ago, cranky said:

First I didn't know they had a youtube channel; second I do not remember David playing for the Panthers but apparently he did; third, I didn't know Derek had a brother that also played in the NFL and finally fourth, it's a short video and there's realy nothing new here but it's great listening to them dissect plays from a QB perspective - especially if you look at some of the other videos. 

Anyway, it's only a little over 13 minutes and defintely worth the watch.

 

 

Are you a very, very new NFL fan??

21 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

From what I had read, and I could be mistaken in my understanding of reading the language, it could be done, although very rarely, with very specific language written into the contract. The passing of a physical was to determine any unknowns. The Achilles tear would be a known commodity going in, so the physical wouldn't apply to that aspect at least, from what I read. This was the very least likely of scenarios, but from what I understood, wasn't totally out of the realm of possibility. 

Who would sign a 30 year old backup OL with an Achilles tear under those conditions? It's just pointlessly flushing cap money.

He didn't garner any free agency interest last offseason so why would be suddenly a hot commodity with a blown Achilles?

This makes zero sense.

Just now, SmokinwithWilly said:

Would depend on whether or not they thought he would recover, contract size, if he had any other suitors, and what, if any value he could bring by recovery time. I wouldn't see it being a likely approach, but for the right price, maybe a shot. And by right price I mean cheap. If BC doesn't think he's gonna get any other offers after his recovery, maybe he'd take a 2 year, vet min deal. Some pretty terrible tackles get offers every year with guarantees and get cut. If you have the cap space to gamble, it could be a cheap cost, moderate reward. A lot of things would have to be in play to do something like that and language can be written into any deal. But hell, we drafted a RB in the 2nd round that couldn't pass a physical. Stranger things have happened. 

No, I mean you literally have to pass a physical. There is no sense in signing him until he is healthy.

Otherwise you are literally paying a guy that is likely to never play a game that season. 

That happens to players under previous contract, not unsigned/free agent players.

Look at the Lions and their recent attempt to bring Frank Ragnow back. He couldn't pass the physical. 

9 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

You have to figure that at the very least, he's going to get Rooney Rule interviews, possibly several. 

And again, all it takes is for one team to like him 

I don't think he will just get Rooney Rule interviews "just because." There has to be some level of at least passing interest.

fug the Cowboys is your answer.

29 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

I'm aware. That's why I said it will all depend on how he recovers. I could see him getting signed then going onto long term IR, risk v reward, but at a very low cost or he could just sit available as a FA. Hate it for him because he is a really good backup to have but Achilles injuries seem like the quick way to retirement in the NFL.

I mean....why would someone sign a player to a contract that can't pass a physical? That would nullify the contract.

29 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

He was featured in Tom Pelissero's annual "Assistants on the Rise" article.

And not as an honorable mention either. He's actually the sixth name listed.

8 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

He could. HC is more about leadership than designing schemes. He's gotten the defense to really overachieve this year. I could see that being very appealing, especially to some places where underachieving has become the norm, like the Raydahs. 

I don't think it is very likely. We will see.

I wouldn't be exactly distraught if he was to leave.

6 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Don't doubt it.

No one really asked whether he thought Evero would still be here next season. If he were to get a head coaching job, we could be looking to build around a different scheme.

That could be interesting.

I don't think Evero is going to be in any head coaching cycles for the near future.

29 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Linked here (Panthers Mailbag) and as always, subscription required.

FYI: There were a few other answers (re: Dowdle, Mays) quoted in Juan's thread. I won't bother reposting them here. Just click on over here if you wanna look.

(formatting / editing is my own, highlighting some things that the board has been talking about)

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Starting with the big one, what's gonna happen with Bryce:

To be sure, it’s been a choppy season for the third-year quarterback. Every time you start thinking Young lacks the arm strength/size/fill-in-other-attribute to be the “guy,” as Dave Canales referred to him after Week 18 last season, he pulls off a Cam Newton-like performance (complete with a dab in Atlanta).

...while the Panthers would like to see more consistency, Young has continued to ascend, as Tilis put it. After ranking at or near the bottom statistically among QBs his first two seasons, Young is now closer to the middle of the pack.

Just as importantly, with four games left, Young has already surpassed his win total (6) from his first two seasons. Then there’s the clutch factor: Five of Young’s seven victories have come on game-winning drives, and last week he surpassed Josh Allen as the youngest QB in NFL history (at 24 years and 128 days) with 11 game-winning drives.

The decision to pick up Young’s fifth-year option before the May 1 deadline — at an estimated $26.5 million, per Over the Cap — is an easy one, considering the top 11, highest-paid QBs all are more than $50 million a year. The question is whether the Panthers want to make Young the next member of that $50M club, and if so, when? Canales, Dan Morgan and Tilis will weigh more than just the next four games, even if Young plays well and the Panthers end their seven-year playoff drought, when considering an extension. Young and the Panthers have taken another step forward this season. If that ascension continues in 2026, his payday is coming.

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Another questioner asked Person to describe current locker room culture:

Like a lot of coaches in a new spot, Canales tried to bring in good “culture” guys to help him establish a standard of what’s expected in terms of effort and attitude. It helped that several were already here. Not coincidentally, three of them have been signed to extensions since Canales and Morgan arrived in January of last year: Derrick Brown, Horn and Hubbard.

Horn’s growth as a leader and his recommitment to offseason training to try to avoid injuries have been striking. And Canales deserves credit for maintaining his energy and positivity despite slow starts in each of his two seasons.

...

So are the Panthers winning because they have a good locker room or is the healthy locker room a product of the winning? It’s probably a combination. But moving on from veterans who were either bad teammates (Diontae Johnson) or who weren’t the right fit for a rebuild (Jadeveon Clowney) was beneficial.

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Next, whether the weaknesses in the Panthers pass rush a scheme issue or a talent issue:

Per Pro Football Focus, the Panthers have been the NFL’s worst pressure team since 2023, when Evero arrived in Charlotte. Over that same span, the Panthers have the NFL’s seventh-highest blitz percentage. So it hasn’t been for a lack of trying. That would suggest personnel has played a part. Evero hasn’t had much to work with since 2023, when Brian Burns and Frankie Luvu combined for 13.5 sacks.

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Morgan hasn’t spent big on a free-agent pass rusher since trading Burns to the Giants in 2024. He brought in D.J Wonnum, K’Lavon Chaisson and Clowney last year, before adding Patrick Jones this past offseason. Wonnum, who had four sacks in eight games last season, has none in 12 games this year. Jones recorded one sack in four games before undergoing a season-ending back surgery in October.

The Panthers drafted a pair of second-day, SEC edge rushers this year in Nic Scourton and Princely Umanmielen. Evero needs more. The list of free-agent pass rushers isn’t deep, but it is headlined by Trey Hendrickson and Jaelan Phillips. At a minimum, Morgan should take a long look.

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One other tidbit: Person sees "no chance" of Canales giving up playcalling duties.

I think Hendrickson and Phillips would likely want top 5 pass rusher contracts to come here, if I am being honest.

3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

 I'd still like him for one more year but I grant the team may disagree.

Yeah, if he was able to be healthy eventually, yes. Possible that we end up signing him at some point during the season when he finally gets healthy again.

Just now, SmokinwithWilly said:

He may, but it won't be for much. I could see a desperate team like Vegas possibly, maybe Cincy. Swing tackles are valuable. It all depends on how he recovers from that Achilles. His lateral movement will tell the tale. 

I don't know if you are aware but he did rupture his Achilles tendon in late Oct. It is unlikely he will be healthy for the entire 2026 offseason and very likely that he misses some or all of the 2026 season.

1 minute ago, BEASTfromdaEAST said:

Agreed especially with him already testing FA last year and not having any bidders, but with Rico and Chubbas success running the ball I'd assume Mays and Christenson will get some bites during FA this year

BC got no bites last year. After the injury he sustained, he is unlikely to get any bites at all in free agency.

6 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Basically, Geoff Hangartner part deux.

Mays can back up the interior while Christensen backs up the tackles.

BC is not a young player, sustained an extremely serious injury and is a free agent. It's unknown how he factors into our future plans, unfortunately. 

25 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

ive defended PFF a lot in the past but this year leaves a lot to be desired

It's not really different than normal, TBH.

22 minutes ago, countryboi said:

it always annoyed me now PFF grades sometimes dont make sense

They aren't terrible for longer term looks but individual game poo has a WILD amount of variance. It's a subjective grading system, so there is a lot of variance naturally. 

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

Seconded.

I let my Athletic subscription lapse because of how crappy the Panthers have been but they're offering a dollar a month deal for a year right now so I may sign back on.

I like Mays well enough but he's ultimately a bottom third/quarter NFL starting center. We must endeavor to do better, preferably through the draft. 

That said, much like BC, Mays is a valuable backup because of his versatility. We do need to keep him around but not at a substantially above market rate amount. 

4 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

@kungfoodudeis next man up. He can hold it down. 

I got this poo. Warming up now.

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

He doesn't have your charisma

(might have a better 40 time though)

That's time on I-40, right?

Signing Mays to a long term deal to be a long term starter at C is a bad idea.

Signing Mays to a reasonable deal to be a long term RESERVE is a very smart idea.

25 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

I would say it has been worse. Maybe they've bottomed out and they have learned some things. 

I mean, we are dramatically worse than that time period. There is a chance the FO has improved(not convinced) but there will never be a moment that David Tepper will ever be a better owner than Jerry Richardson. Tepper needs to set his sights smaller and try not to be worse than Woody Johnson or Dan Snyder.

23 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

Different owner and different FO. I'm hoping that makes a difference. 

Yeah, minus the fact that this owner and FO are significantly worse, I guess??

12 hours ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

At the rate injuries are increasing, teams need another 4 slots just to stash backups for the season. 

Now imagine this at the upcoming 18 games/season.

19 minutes ago, CRA said:

Well, it gets weird.  If Bryce Young is the quarterback…..it’s almost a certainty your team will be trailing at halftime (it’s like close to 80% of the time in his career). So it’s just never ending opportunity to comeback on teams. 

even this year, the golden year, we trail at the half 75% of the time 

I’m not sold on the clutch thing

I can look at that this week possibly. Maybe 3rd Quarter leads for the entire Tepper tenure? Should I extend into the end of Cam era? Could just do a straight 10 year block?

12 minutes ago, mav1234 said:

I think PFF forgot to grade Derrick Brown.

IDK, sometimes the "eye test" and the PFF grade don't really match.

PFF is interesting from a season chunk perspective but game to game it's preplexing.

12 hours ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

So you're New Orleans.  Do you draft a QB or get him some help. As it stands they are top 5 pick. 

I would say maybe let the rest of the season play out. That's a good start.