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42 minutes ago, Sup said:

It's all just Bryce dragging the average down*.

 

 

 

*I'm joking, but there is a little bit of truth to it. A better QB would have probably thrown for 40 more yards a game which would bump up the league avg more than a yard.

He isn't the last QB in YPG. There are a few actually below him.

Just now, csx said:

They have been the same per game the past decade 

 

The variance back to 1990 was only 2.4. If anything, the rushing attempts have been one of the most stable aspects over that span.

Output had some significant variance and efficiency. It was the passing offense that was far more volatile.

25 minutes ago, csx said:

Rushing attempts are the same as 10 years ago. Passing attempts are down.

Possibly related to less good qbs and coaches playing the clock differently 

Rushing attempts PG are actually the 5th lowest since 1990.

If he is healthy soon enough, it could impact our future plans at RB.

We will see what happens. I think I would rather re-sign Dowdle and have a safer, surer option.

16 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

The Chiefs have a, I have enough rings and I don't care anymore problem. 

I think that is a very, very. VERY small issue with them. I think they just generally aren't as good as they used to be. If you look across the board at their roster, the talent level isn't as high. 

I took a look at 1990 to 2025(so far). It's an interesting look. In my eyes, I don't think there is a huge difference in the rushing output or attempts over that span. The maximum difference in the attempted rushes over that massive of a span of time was only 2.4 attempts/game. Attempts/game has been rising for the past few years but that isn't the biggest difference, it's the efficiency of those runs that is actually at historic highs over that timespan. Look at YPA averages.

The same general thing happened a few years ago with the passing game. Although the range of attempted passes per game is significantly higher in this timespan(5.8 attempts/GM), it's also the efficiency of these passes that has gone up considerably over that era(but peaked a few years ago). 

I don't think we are reverting to a "previous era" of offense in terms of the rushing attempts vs. passing attempts. I say that because with all the rule changes, it's sort of impossible for that to happen. What you are seeing is more likely an adjustment to the defensive changes that came about to stop the explosive passing offenses that had developed. These changes haven't led to an inordinate amount of rushing versus passing(although that ratio has dropped) but it HAS led to much more explosive rushing output as evidenced by YPA ticking up since 2018.

1 minute ago, NAS said:

I personally love to see balance and parity in the NFL. Defenses have adjusted to the passing attacks and have made it difficult to play QB again. For a while it seemed like anyone can do it.  Hopefully it also means they will stop overpaying QBs and invest in other assets, win as a team rather than just relying on elite QBs. Resurgence of the running game has brought the game back to where it was about 15-20 years ago.  

I don't think the statistics bear out this viewpoint.

5 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

I did not see it--but my opinion is based on a very limited body of work

Well, he made JJ McCarthy look pretty good is all I will say.

That facemask was such BS. Lol

21 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

The NFLPA pushed for less contact in practices to cut down on injuries but I'm not sure it's working out that way. There's a fine line you gotta walk between practicing too hard and getting your body ready to play. Football players have to have contact, fighters have to spar. You can overdo it but if you underdo it that's not gonna work either.

I don't think it has much to do with that. You just can't keep increasing the amount of games without this being inevitable.

fug PS spots, the NFLPA should push for larger game day rosters the next time 18 games comes up.

4 minutes ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

He makes a couple of big plays and everyone thinks he's a hidden gem.  IMO he holds onto the ball way too long and He plays off script mostly.   Just not a fan. 

He is going to have to change considerably from what he was in college for him to become a long term NFL starter.

1 hour ago, NAS said:

Bucs are in a downward spiral.

 Falcons will match up well against them with Bijan and put pressure on Baker.

 Dolphins have won 3 in a row. 

Baker's injury severely hurts their chances.

I would feel bad for KC's OL injury luck if we literally hadn't had more of it.

Also, can the Sanders stans just fuging chill?

I say that as a guy that had him as the #2 QB in this class but ya'll are obsessed to an unhealthy level.

11 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

I want Max Brosmer--(Vikings)--he is way under the radar--loved him in preseason.

 

Man....he was really, really, REALLY bad in his start.

9 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I hate that happened. He tried to play through it to help his team with a playoff push and its gonna end up costing him tens of millions of dollars. He'll probably be signing another one or two year deal to prove he can comeback from it instead of either getting tagged next year or signing a big extension. Just sucks, but ultimately he'll be just fine financially after all that money he fleeced the Giants out of.

It also REALLY fugs up the Colts future plans. 

Garrett may break the NFL record today. Lol

2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

They're cooked. Daniel Jones tore his Achilles trying to play through a fractured bone in his leg. That's just awful, especially with him on a one year deal.

It really sucks. It was nice to see his career resurgence there.

32 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

This is what everyone doesn'tseem to understand...

...or doesn't want to accept  

I think it's easier to accept some sort of alternate scenario that doesn't involve realizing your coaching staff and front office is just plain stupid.

1 hour ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

Which was my point. And entrenched starter can lose his job due to extremely poor play and Bryce has had literally the worst QB play in the NFL since being drafted. He hasn't even had to face a remotely capable QB in camp and he's being kept starter for some other reason than performance after 3 years. I'd call that coddling. 

I don't think it's coddling, I think it's straight denial.

Riley Leonard absolutely cannot get the Jags defenders to accept these INT's he is throwing.

So Anthony Richardson is the 3rd stringer in Indy?

Woof. Have to assume they move on from him in the offseason.

5 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Jones just tore his achilles

poo, I missed it. Did he get carted off?

Was "Nine" the career starts before a good one from JJ McCarthy?

1 minute ago, Sup said:

That's a legitimate question. I think two things here.

One, I think there is a recognition it was a mistake to roll with Dalton as the only other QB. At a total minimum I am certain Dalton will be but there and a real backup brought in. Could be a vet Mariota or Winston or could be younger upside guy like Howell or Lance. But I'd bet anything that will happen.

Two, the better we are the more obvious it is that we could be legit if we had a good QB. When we sucked it was easy to give Bryce a pass and let him grow as a passer. Times have changed. We could make a playoff run with just decent QB play. We will either sign Jones or throw darts to see what we get.

Last, Tepper may like Bryce and want to protect his ego for drafting him, but you don't make a billion without being cold blooded when necessary. Canales and Morgan aren't dumb. They will tell Tepper at a minimum we need real competition, and he will pitch Bryce to the side if he thinks it means a shot at getting to the SB.

Too many people here (not you) think that because Bryce has been protected that will go on forever. It won't.

I think you are making a lot of assumptions based on what we the fans see and putting that on our FO and coaching staff. Those two groups haven't really impressed me very much in the ability to recognize personnel and roster flaws in a timely fashion.

If I had to guess, I would be we are going to find out that a pretty big chunk of that same FO and coaching staff are very bullish on moving forward in 2026 with Bryce. 

Believe me, I hope I am wrong but I think the wins have them ignoring the obvious situation.