kungfoodude

Just saw the score. Basically have avoided watching since G1, 1st period of this series. It was obvious what was gonna go down. 

Florida just has our number. 

Injure as many of these ***** as possible before they face(hopefully) the Oilers. They do the same to us. fug them.

Honestly, the tiers make a lot of sense to me.

Glad to see people have finally come to the realization that Darnold and Richardson are fools gold.

3 hours ago, Stumpy said:

Strongly disagree with this. Not saying Kucci will be a playoff caliber starter. But, if you look at the guys who are playoff starters and those with recent playoff success, he is matching their trajectories to a tee. Once other teams get enough tape/experience and start to gameplan against, there is an adjustment period.

Pyotr has all of the skills to be a Vezina level tendy. What matters is how he evolves from here. The league knows his tendencies and have learned how to exploit him. Can he continue to mature and improve, or will he settle in for a long lucrative career on the bench?

Next season will be a turning point for Kucci, one way or another. Hopefully, he proves me right and we have our goalie for the next decade. Lord knows the rest of our goalie pipeline looked like garbage when they got thrown in the fire this season.

TBH, he is too much of a nutcase to ever be able to be consistent, IMO. It's his greatest strength and his greatest weakness.

6 minutes ago, carpanfan96 said:

I was going to put goalie but I don't think they will go that direction since Freddie has been resigned. 

It's a one year deal, however.

1 hour ago, carpanfan96 said:

Got 35m in cap space and really the only true needs are a 2nd line center, 3rd pair defender and a goal scoring wing with size. 

Goalie is gonna rear it's head sooner or later. If an option presents itself, it would be hard not to jump on it.

Kochetkov doesn't seem like he will end up being more than a backup.

45 minutes ago, Mistuh Jones said:

Um, whatchu talmbout bruh? 1 year 2.7 mil is in the top 5? I was talkin' about Brady Christensen 

You might want to go back and re-read that original post, dogg. You didn't read it correctly.

As for BC, the market spoke and there was even an ESPN article predicting him as a 6th or 7th tier FA OL and being worth slightly less than we signed him for. 

He is great for us as a backup but literally not a single NFL team views him as anything but a backup OL for VERY obvious reasons.

49 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

I believe you are referring to Samir Suleiman, still crazy they just out right fired him but I guess if you disagree with the consensus that puts the cross hairs on you.

18 minutes ago, CanadianCat said:

WHAT IS HAPPENEING HERE!?

23 minutes ago, Icege said:

Eh... the film and the stats don't really backup the backup allegations: top-10 pass-blocking grade, top-25 run-blocking grade, top-20 overall grade.

He's got potential and was really starting to put things together at the end of the season. Him and Hunt offset each others' weaknesses fairly well imo. Mays is the better pass-blocker while Hunt the better run-blocker.

Even so, the team needs to do their due diligence on the center position imo. Corbett can't be seen as anything more than a one year rental barring a sudden turnaround this season when it comes to his availability. Prospects that I've got my eyes on for 2026:

• Jake Slaughter (Florida)
• Iapani Laloulu (Oregon)
• Parker Brailsford (Alabama)
• Logan Jones (Iowa)
• Connor Tollison (Missouri)
• Connor Lew (Auburn)

Yeah, I mean 19th pretty much says it all.

It's time to plan for the future. Mays is a backup level C/OG. That's great for us because he can join BC down there and help us stay deep.

54 minutes ago, Mistuh Jones said:

Me too. I was SHOCKED he didn't get an offer in FA... on versatility alone

?? I mean, how much more recognition do you need than being in the top 5 in OG contracts in the NFL?

18 minutes ago, NorthTryon said:

Makes you wonder if the rumors about Morgan being one of the only guys in the building to disagree with Fitts and his moves was true. I know I desperately want it to be.

I wish but his drafts are very Fitterer-esque.

1 hour ago, Icege said:

There are a lot of question marks surrounding TMo right now. There were whispers leading into the draft that the team was ready to move on due to a knee issue, but they came away with no real backup plan outside of BC. Maybe the knee isn't as serious as feared… or maybe it was just front office gamesmanship, like we saw with the Jalon Walker rumors. With Icky's second contract on the horizon, the team's probably hoping Moton is open to a team-friendly extension. His consistency over the years has been incredibly underappreciated.

Hunt's grades dipped last season--particularly in pass pro, where he ranked 54th among guards with 500+ pass-blocking snaps. That's not ideal, but when you step back, it's still starting-caliber play. In the run game, he was more effective--posting the 14th-highest run-blocking grade among guards with 300+ run-blocking snaps. DLew, meanwhile, was a warrior. He played through a shoulder injury all season and still ranked 17th in pass-blocking + 10th in run-blocking under those same filters. Context matters here too... in terms of 2024 cap hits, Hunt was the 17th-highest paid guard at $6.45M while DLew was 25th at $4.9M. DLew absolutely outplayed the first year of his deal. Looking ahead, Hunt will carry the #3 highest cap hit among guards in 2025 at $21.65M, while DLew will be #10 at $14.57M. If DLew maintains that level of play and Hunt bounces back in pass pro? Oooh wee mayne.

That said, decisions are coming. DLew can be cut in 2026 for $9M in savings, or in 2027 for $13M. Hunt is more locked in: his contract opens up flexibility starting in 2027 ($14.3M savings) and jumps to $18M in 2028. And then there's the biggest unresolved piece: center. Cade Mays looked solid when called upon, and Christensen didn't look out of place either. Corbett's durability is a fair concern... he hasn't been able to stay on the field the past two years.

If Mays locks down the center job, I think the front office moves quickly to secure RT next. Once the bookends are in place, the interior OL becomes the next long-term focus. Hopefully, they're already developing some of those answers internally.

I think we have to eventually get serious about getting a real center. None of those guys mentioned are legit top 15-20 NFL centers. Mays is a BC-esque backup, where is value is maximum. Corbett is really an OG playing out of position and we know BC is a utility depth piece. We have a ton of roster needs over the next 2-3 offseasons/drafts but we should finally get a Day 1-2 center drafted, IMO.

OT's are as you say, we could be set there or we could be heading towards a reset. TBD.

I just hope we don't lose our focus on keeping the trenches strong. On BOTH sides of the ball, for that matter.

I am concerned that with our constant changing of coaches and GM/FO guys that will get fuged up.

1 hour ago, Waldo said:

Hunt was graded by PFF as 67.7 in 2024. Panther fans have lost all perspective. Hunt only had a 72 run blocking which is supposed to be his strength and a 57.5 pass which is dog poo for what he is getting paid. That's a 10 point decrease from 2023 too.

Spending big on 2 OGs out of need was the first move. Where is the follow up moves? Moton is on a 1 year deal at 30 mil. Ickey just had his 5th year option picked up but also needs to show improvement to justify a big new LT contract. Then at center the hope is Mays will play to his better games vs his average 66.1 2024 grade. BC has done nearly nothing and is back on a 1 year deal after no one else wanted him as even that apparently. 

The oline being the team's strength currently says a lot about the state of the team.

 

Hunt is a little overrated by the fans because he is a bruiser and plays very physically like Andrew Norwell did. 

IMO, Lewis is the more consistent of the two OG's overall.

But, the addition of those two guys turned that unit around completely. That isn't debatable. Remains to be seen how that works out in the long term, given it runs counter to almost all roster building theory to have most of your OL money in the two OG's.

6 hours ago, frankw said:

Hunt and Lewis were two big swings we hit big on. Credit where it's due. We have Icky on the left and Moton holding down the right and our interior depth is solid. Unfortunately Center looms large. If we are to rewind back to just a few years ago things were pretty damn dicey at that position. While they have improved we are basically hinging the development of the offense this season on Cade Mays because at this point it's only a matter of when not if Corbett misses some time.

I think we will be forced to finally address it when Corbett gets injured again this season. Hate to predict that but it has been very constant.

27 minutes ago, frankw said:

The college scouting staff for the Panthers have job security like teflon I've gotta hand it to them.

Easily the worst in the NFL for years now.

I don't think Mingo didn't fit due to "scheme." He literally just isn't an NFL player.

49 minutes ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

They won't because Koochie gets +20 all stats buff by playing against a Russian goalie.

It is true. He gets up for a Ruskie goalie for whatever reason.

18 hours ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

I just hope Bob doesn’t go super human and stand on his head.  I think our team has a good chance.

Bobs and their goonery concern me. Especially with adding king goon in Marchand.

They really are such a hateable team.

3 hours ago, PantherChris said:

This is a bad take dude..... Fitzpatrick was far far more turnover prone if anything hes a less turnover prone Fitzpatrick 

A 3.3% INT rate versus a 2.9% INT rate?

I would say that is pretty much right on par.

Darnold averages 0.55 fumbles/GM and Fitzpatrick 0.51 fumbles/GM.

17 hours ago, tukafan21 said:

He poo the bed in the playoffs, but true bums can't do what he did last year, no matter the talent around them.

He's somewhere between what he was with the Jets and what he was last year, where that is I'm not sure.

He is a poor man's Ryan Fitzpatrick. Yes he can get hot for stretches but more playing time reveals he is a backup QB only.

1 hour ago, tukafan21 said:

Eh, not convinced he's a bum, but also not saying he's a star either.

If there was any coaching staff in recent memory that was worse than ours with Rhule, it was the Jets staff during Darnold's time there.

I honestly just don't think we really know who Darnold is as a player yet because of it, this season will be very telling, he genuinely could be a bust or a solid above average starter and I wouldn't be surprised either way.

He is a bum. Anyone who had seen NFL QB's for more than a couple of seasons can easily ID that.

46 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

Darnold and Baker both bombed here with the same team and coaching and then both went on to look pretty darn good afterwards.

I'm not saying Darnold (or Baker) is some elite QB, but I don't put their issues here on either of them, that staff was a joke.

Not saying you are wrong but Baker had a ton of success prior to us and Darnold was a massive bust. Basically the best he has ever been was last season on an insanely loaded roster with an insanely loaded coaching staff. He is a bum.

22 minutes ago, X-Clown said:

We watched Jimmy Garoppolo get to the Super Bowl with most of the same great team, how much did his career change when he was asked to carry a team like in Vegas?

One could argue the same for Goff(far better than Jimmy G, mind you). 

I think fans often get enamored with the Tier 2 and even Tier 3 QB's at times. 

Hell, portions of our fanbase are STILL fooled by Sam Darnold, despite him bombing so badly here.

7 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Hurts is an elite threat with his legs though. He's gonna stress an opposing DC a lot more than Brock Purdy.

I would counter that although he is certainly not Hurts/Jackson, Purdy is pretty mobile. Surprisingly so, at times.

1 hour ago, Shocker said:

It’s a great story for the last player drafted but that contract is crazy

100%. I may not think a lot of him as a player but I am happy for him as a person for getting that bag. Especially as Mr. Irrelevant. Great story, even if he doesn't get to the ultimate NFL heights.