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Also, for the people piling on EP(not that I particularly care one way or the other) do remember that he is actually injured and has been pretty shoddy since he got injured. I am not sure what the thought process is behind playing him while injured but whatever.

#TepperMagic

C is a bigger need than TE, IMO.

BPA all the way.

IDGAF about the kickers. Get an NFL caliber defense.

So about that......

That's absurd. We actually tried hard and got to 4-11.

Nijman is starting and he was an absolute turnstile earlier this season. Mays, Zavala and BC have all been mostly competent in relief roles. Nijman was awful. He was one of the few complete bust free agents signings.

Yeah, very possibly so. We will see how it plays out.

I mean....I am not trying to be flippant but who cares what a PS/3rd string QB really has to offer in an almost impossible scenario? I am becoming VERY convinced we are really tanking. But, that should show itself very clearly on Sunday, if true. We should get absolutely stomped.

Speaking of draft position, the very small odds of passing New England in the order are basically shot.

I mean, it's such an insanely difficult thing to prove. You would have to be wildly incompetent to actually get caught doing it.

I am just not seeing how this isn't tanking. I mean......how?

I think that was more to do with the results than the play. Go back and watch those games. He really didn't show any sign of physical decline, IMO. Not saying it isn't possibly coming but I don't think that is something I would be that worried about. I would like to see him stick around, actually. I think he is good for Bryce and is definitely one of the most capable #2 QB's in the NFL.

I mean....why would Tremble warrant anything BUT team friendly deal(which is literally just market value, TBH)? I think what you mean is, "I would like to see the Panthers NOT offer Tremble an Ian Thomas contract." BC is an interesting one. I think he will be worth far less on the open market than most Huddlers think. But, it only takes one team to change that.

I think you mean, is already ugly.

I didn't see that at all. I am not saying this to disaparage Bryce but Dalton has more zip on most of his passes than Bryce. But he also generally has a stronger arm. Honestly the Plummer move definitely smells like prepping to tank.

I would take solace in that were we not so many FO iterations into this nonsense. Hey, all he(and the FO) can do is prove my skepticism wrong. Let's hope they do. I am not one of these "fans" that come in here gloating when my negative opinions come true(which is far too often). I mention them because I am insanely frustrated that we laymen can all too often see some of the poo that these guys can't. It's infuriating.

The list of guys missing the game or questionable is wild. It definitely LOOKS like tanking, regardless of the intent.

Pretty sure it cost Doug Pederson his job. That was basically the penalty.

I would say that Chicago COULD be a hotter destination regardless depending on the coaching hire(s). Far more "win ready" team than we are on paper, for whatever that is worth. Honestly, I think our biggest hurdle is going to be the same as teams like the Jets, which is the reputation for overall organizational dysfunction. There is no question that winning is what helps improve that more than any other individual factor. Which, we were also able to get the best two guards on the market last year....by overpaying. But, I think even armchair/keyboard GM's know that isn't a sustainable model in the long term.

Winning 2 games and losing 2 games is probably the difference in about 3-4 spots in position, if even that much. Also, it's less position than evaluation that is the problem. Gotta fix that first.

I am curious who is left on the active roster who hasn't played snaps or even started games. I will look at that after the game Sunday out of curiosity.

Be the first man to be lifted up and thrown at a QB for a sack?

I have consistently said it about him, 100%. The mis-timed jumps, turning the wrong way on a ball, drops, those are all issues with tracking(hand eye coordination). That is why I am concerned. It isn't things like, struggles to get off the line at this level or consistently can't get separation(he is actually slightly above average at this), it's the simplest things that he struggles with. I will be quite happy if he locks in and gets that remedied but if you are a Panthers fan, you can understand skeptisicm about that given our WR drafting history both in the past decade and in franchise history. That skepticism is founded in some very deep and persistent organizational scars at that position in relation to the draft. You are mistaking this as "fug THIS GUY." It's not that, it's.....