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I am not saying it doesn't happen but I don't think every team is doing that anymore. Remember, the NFL was a lot more wild west only 20-25 years ago than it is now. Every single aspect of these guys lives gets broadcast everywhere. Harder for them to cover up shenanigans and keep it away from the media.

Still expect Christensen to ultimately be a guard.

Horn sort of has to have an immediate impact as a #8 pick. I don't mean that as in being an All Pro player(although that would be great). He just needs to be able to start the whole season and not be a problem. I am trying to lower my year one expectations for him because traditionally CB's struggle for a couple of seasons before the light comes on. If he is simply average in the first year and shows flashes of being great, that will be a great start.

Greg Little??? I am not sure that writer knows our roster well.

I have some employers that have but it is a rarity and somewhat required for them. Either way, I would hope we wouldn't take a guy that we would think needs that kind of counseling. I am sure the organization believes whatever issues he had were behind him.

I kind of doubt that. Not sure that would be the most professional way to start their relationship. Frankly, if you believe you HAVE to say that to him, you just simply don't draft him.

I hope we have. It is a rough unit, without a doubt. That was why I was so down on our draft. This appeared to be such a great OL draft.

Bad loss to a bad team. Never something you want to take. Circle the wagons and win in the finale. Otherwise we definitely give up that #1 overall seed.

Well...I don't disagree with that sentiment however most regular employers don't have programs for their employees that fug up.

The level of dumb homerism in this thread with zero knowledge behind it is amazing.

I puked in my mouth a little bit.

Dude....the fact that people think this line will be better than last year absolutely stuns me.

I puked in my mouth a little.

I agree with that sentiment. There is no question some of his struggles had to do with his mismanagement in NY but a portion of the blame lies with Darnold. His time in Carolina will tell whether the greater portion of blame lies with the Jets and Gase or with Darnold himself.

He has basically gotten chased from two teams. He just isn't an NFL player. Not all of these first round guys are.

Yes. Josh Rosen. They pulled the plug even more quickly on him and he is tracking quickly towards being out of the league.

Maybe we have way too much belief in our current staff(certainly possible that is the case) but it would be hard to envision many other scenarios in the NFL where Darnold would have the organizational structure to be successful. I definitely don't think the team is necessarily set up perfectly for him, as he may not have a much better OL scenario than the Jets. But, I do think if he isn't successful here then his future suitors will likely be interested in him as a backup only. This is probably one of the last chances he is going to get to be a surefire starter in the NFL if he flames out. I didn't love the decision to pick up his 5th year option but I completely understand it. Now we get to sit back and watch it all unfold. Fingers firmly crossed. I don't want to extend our QB drought to 4+ seasons.

Probably more so just grow up and mature. Some of these guys take for granted what being a successful NFL player takes.

I don't care about a long TD pass. I care about sustained success. I am not going to lose my poo over finally seeing a long TD pass. I will be impressed with Darnold when he is making smart decisions and winning games. That is the bar.

Yeah,therwise we are back to square one, yet again. But, I have absolutely zero faith in Darnold. He looked basically like any of the dozens of bust 1st round QB's from the past 30 years or so. The odds are against us, that is for sure.

Weight issues??

I think the biggest problem is honestly that those guys just didn't have what it took to be elite QB's in the first place. That is why you see so many of them fail after being a bust at their first franchise. Injuries aside, the cream tends to rise to the top at QB in the NFL. That is why the "trash to treasure" stories are so rare.

It seems like it is hard for some of these young QB's to recover from tough first stops in the NFL. I wish it was just as easy as being able to forget it all.

Well, all these coaches think that. There is typically a reason that the cream rises to the top at the professional level.

Not all but the majority. It's a spectrum of dumb. For whatever reason regular young people generally get more "dumb" leeway than athletes. Generally.