kungfoodude

Whatever it is, they definitely have kept it hushed.

They have actually had 11 winning seasons since 1995(last in 2015 at 10-6) and 7 playoff appearances. Sooooooo........that statement kind of applies to us too, right?

Yeah. I actually was watching NFL football at that time. I didn't start when Sam Darnold got drafted. Carr rushed for considerably more yardage and and same amount of TD's in his first three years than Darnold. Had you watched the NFL at that time, you would have seen the historically bad protection he saw. It had nothing to do with him not being able to make plays on the run. That's ridiculous.

No, I wouldn't.

It's possible. We will know soon enough.

He isn't going to be a game manager anyway. He is a gunslinger, he basically stated he plans to stick with that. The biggest question is where he falls on that scale. Is he a measured gunslinger in this offense or does he go full Favre and just plain wing it. I guess even when he is being a disaster at least it will be more fun to watch than Teddy was last year. At least we will know it is over and not have to suffer through being close and then having him choke away a victory. fug me that was miserable.

I don't think we got many starters from our draft but I think we got some good depth guys. IMO, outside Horn that was basically this draft. A lot of cheap and more quality depth options. I would never have wasted the 2nd and 3rd round the way they did but TBH, depth had been a massive issue since the roster teardown. Arguably our biggest issue outside QB and starting OL.

Absolutely.

No offense but I don't trust player chasing fans. They are very, very rarely fans of the team. Reference the fact that the overwhelming bulk of your posts are Darnold related. You aren't a Panthers fan, you are a Sam Darnold fan. So, until you are a fan for a few seasons or remain a fan when Darnold is gone(which sadly probably won't be long) then I will remain very skeptical of "fans" like you. Every offseason we see a small continent of players chasers from college teams and even a couple from free agent signings. Almost none of them stick around once those guys move on.

Even if Marshall and Shi flame out and we have no threat at TE.....this team still is has three high end receiving options. There should not be a reason to fail to move the ball with relative ease.* *Assuming there is not a cavalcade of injuries.

The issue I have with this is that is exactly the definition of a game managing QB. That is basically what we had last season. I don't think there is any question Darnold won't be as good as Stafford or Watson but he needs to be appreciably better than Teddy for that trade to matter.

You are aware that David Carr was a much better athlete than Darnold, right?

I think it also comes down to all of our offseason moves. Darnold may be the biggest but if our OL is trash, we are in a pickle. If our FA defense signings don't work out, we are in a pickle. IMO, if we crush the majority of the offseason moves other than Darnold, we could still potentially be a fringe playoff team or at least be battling for a winning record. Darnold remaining Darnold is ultimately still the biggest limiting factor, you are correct in that regard.

The correct answer is divisional opponents. The Seattle "rivalry" was never real. Only a portion of our fans believed in that and their fanbase almost never considered us more of a rival than any other NFC/NFL team. Atlanta and New Orleans followed by Tampa are the correct and really only answers.

Yeah, any QB that takes that kind of beating is gonna be permanently scarred by it.

I remember seeing him drop back, a perfect pocket would set up around him and then his internal clock would go off. He was so clearly broken.

I think Brady has a lot of issues to work through, as well. We seem to consistently underestimate the NFL experience of our staff as a whole. At some level, we have to be a little patient with that.

I wonder how many remember our David Carr experience?

He seems to be a very level headed guy with a low level of drama. It would be nice for him to work out as a QB because he doesn't seem like he is going to get you in trouble with his mouth(Brees/Cam/etc).

Yeah, the NFL has had some next level terrible coaches. Gase is for sure bad but worst of all time??? Hyperbole.

I get you are attached to your sources and believe them to be gospel, regardless of what anyone says. We'll just have to agree to disagree on their veracity.

I don't agree with his take but throwing out Panthers history, which you have zero frame of reference for, is ridiculous. You aren't even a Panthers fan.

Yeah and I think starting with young players is more likely to work. Established vets may not have the patience for the learning curve that a lot of our coaches are going through. I definitely see the advantages. We just have to hope it works out in the end. That is the tough part about trying a rebuild as extensive as we have. If you fail at it, the consequences are usually lingering. Let's hope all that hype and advertising end up with substance and wins.

Lol. I don't think he was the worst in terms of overall results but, yes, he probably was the least worthy of even making that step up.

I don't even like him as a Plan A but I think by the time we got him, most of the non-draft Plan A options weren't much better. Yeah, I am not as optimistic as that. Hopeful but not optimistic. I am just waiting and seeing. They have the mentality that I want to see, I just need to see the execution and consistency. That's what we have all been waiting forever, consistent winning. College isn't the NFL. That isn't a very historically successful path. Agree to disagree on the "outside the box."