kungfoodude

Yeah, the big difference is you forgot they existed. I didn't. Scroll back and read where I said he was a polarizing prospect. That is initially what you bristled at. However.....he was very, very clearly a polarizing prospect. But, if you cherry pick only his positives and don't actually recollect that time period(or read the draft profiles completely), then I suppose you would think he was a shocking drop to round two. Strangely, if you watched that draft broadcast....it didn't shock those guys either as he dropped....

This is essentially the core of the problem. It's just a message board. Calm down.

That had a lot less to do with it than multiple teams saying they didn't want him on the team(including a prospective team).

Our line is a stud RT, a good center and three question marks. If we can get at least two answers from those questions, we could be on to something.

It may be, it may not be. TBD. The scheme will be better, even if it isn't.

Careful. You'll wake the sunshine squad from their dreams of Superb Owl victories with Greg Little pancaking DE's as Sam Darnold throws bombs to Ian Thomas running free 80 yards down the field.

Fields and Wilson haven't shown anything at the NFL level, so they aren't great comparisons in the preseason. After the year, those will be valid comparisons because they have had to prove it at the NFL level like Darnold has(or hasn't) for three seasons. It doesn't really matter if we give him the benefit of the doubt or not. He's our unquestioned starting QB for 2021 and we are just going to have to see what happens. For his sake(and ours), we better hope that OL has improved in the offseason.

Interesting that it was only 10 QB's taken at #3. Narrowing it down to the #3 pick is probably a little too specific. The data on first round bust QB's going to a second team and succeeding is pretty damning alone. The best hope we have is that the Jets were truly enough of a dumpster fire that Sam had very little fault. Even then, we have to hope it hasn't permanently stunted or ruined his development. That's a lot to have to hope for.

I wouldn't bother with this recent crop of "fans." A lot of them aren't actual Panthers fans. Definitely a question for Igo and the mods. Perhaps has to do with the recent server upgrades? The bulk of us were here for the entire charade, so we all recall how that went down. It's kind of a pointless thing to argue anyway. Little is so clearly a bust that it's a purely academic discussion. No matter what we think of the free agent signings or draft picks, none of them can be as ill suited to play LT(or really anywhere on the OL) as Greg Little was. Hurney's lows were so unbelievably low. It's unreal.

It's not different than any other offseason. Hope and homerism springs eternal, mixed with our little band of non-Panther fans that are just player surfing. Rather telling that as vocal as they are they are such a small group. These specific optimists are not Panthers fans. They are just Darnold fans. It's interesting how thin skinned they are. Lashing out at anything they perceive to be as too critical. At least the USC fan is capable of seeing that Darnold is not some flawless player without any fault for his current predicament. The reality is that we took a flyer on a high ceiling, very low floor bust because we couldn't get a more surefire option. So, unless we as actual fans want to watch our fourth straight losing season, we better hope this experiment works out. It's a lot easier to swallow being wrong about a player and winning than being right about a player and having hopes in our franchise dashed....yet again.

Odd that you love to use the "Now go ahead and get the last word in" phrase yet you do such persistently. Interesting way of projecting.

Says the guy stalking me thread to thread? Speaking of mirrors....

Yeah, I am not sure how people can forget that fiasco. It was a hot topic here that entire offseason. Remember how badly his stock tanked after the combine too? It was rough.

Still got that room for me up there? Hell yeah. Might set up an AirBnB.

Probably hard to concentrate with all that angsty teenager emotion welling up in you, eh?

Yeah, it would be different had he had even the background a guy like Trubisky did(who had an 11-3 season and a Pro Bowl). Almost all of Sam's time in the NFL has been failing. He isn't any different than our current whipping boy, Greg Little. Eventually all the potential and hope become, "What have you done for us?" That's why this is likely a do or die year for Darnold. He has to show something from what made him a top 10 pick. He is in a better situation overall, although sadly I don't think our offensive line is going to be a big upgrade. But, eventually you just have to be better than your circumstances if you want to be an elite player in the NFL.

He's a "Jets fan" that left the team because Darnold left. Pretty standard player surfer. We get them every offseason and they disappear as quickly as the Teddy simps did. I never have understood that portion of fans that really doesn't have any allegiance to any team but latches onto a player like a newborn on a teat.

I mean....you did actually watch him play, right? I sometimes question that. He was consistently in the discussion of being the worst starting QB in the NFL, so why wouldn't I have that opinion? And you dodged the question, which isn't surprising. Better than Teddy in what regard? Specific statistics? Overall statistics? Wins? What?

I think he has to conclusively show he is "the guy" or at least can be "the guy." That may not be as simple as wins on paper. If he starts looking like, say, the good version of Mitch Trubisky(2018) then I could see them deciding to stick with him.

I mean, clearly to you it is since you are stalking me from one thread to the next seething with anger. Not that I am complaining. It's free entertainment for me.

You seem to be just randomly shifting your position to suit your support of Little. What are you actually trying to accomplish? Little was a pretty polarizing prospect with a pretty wide variety of grades because he had so many flaws as a prospect. That's pretty much the point we are making. He was not some home run prospect that was a head scratching bust. He was acknowledged to be a guy that needed a lot of development and had a lot of downsides. He just simply didn't develop.

@SBBlue This is not a negative thing for them to be cutting bait on Little after he is clearly a bust. Remember how reticent we were to admit those mistakes and cut bait prior to this new coaching staff. Can you imagine how quickly they would have pulled the rip cord on the Matt Kalil signing??? I for one am actually glad this staff is ready to move on from players that just don't have what it takes to be an NFL player.

We lost Samuels and replaced him with unknown commodities. Until those unknown commodities prove they are better than Samuels(or equal), I can understand the reason to doubt. Regardless, I don't think we will be outside the top 15 even if we aren't able to get the same production out of our guys behind Robby and DJ.

Thanks for the rent free space in your head.