kungfoodude

How about 2 1sts, 2 2nds, 2 3rds and Brian Burns? Is he worth that?

I think Stafford could certainly still have plenty left in the tank. I do agree that I would want it to be at the right price.

We can get rid of him if they chose to get rid of him. It may not make the most sense on paper but we are still in the rebuilding, so cutting bait might actually make sense if you have no plans on letting him see the field.

I would amend that to say "recent history." There are lots of Super Bowl winning QB's that are on other teams than they were drafted by. Not as many in the last 15 years but there is also a certain QB who keeps skewing that number, as well.

Even if we did keep both(and we absolutely wouldn't) we would be under $50 mil in 2021 and 2022. Remember, all the prorated bonus money for Stafford stays with the Lions. His actual pay would be $20 mil in 2021 and $23 mil in 2022. That's actually less than what we would be paying Teddy.

Yeah, I mean....I just don't view that was quite the same kind of pressure. That takes a while to get bad enough to make a move and only if Teddy is just out there shitting the bed.

Well given the amount of winning seasons in franchise history(7 winning seasons in 26 years of existence), I'd say we are a bottom third franchise. The only argument to be made for us being in the middle portion of the league are the two SB appearances and our 22nd ranked all-time winning percentage. Not super strong arguments, IMO.

He isn't a free agent, he is under contract for the next two seasons. He isn't going to have much of a choice in the hypothetical "Lions move on from Matt Stafford" scenario. This isn't like the Watson situation.

I don't think the staff is going to much under much actual pressure. Rhule is basically getting to do his own thing for now. Who would pressure him? Tepper? I don't see that as likely. I think if Teddy is still with the team in 2021 AND we have drafted a QB at #8, the best player will play for us. If the coaches think the rookie is ready to go, we are gonna start the rookie. That said, we did start a lot more veteran guys early last season that saw less and less time as the season went on(Weatherly, Whitehead, etc).

If we are in the middle, who the hell is below us?

Define "middle of the pack."

Well Jake was 29 when we signed him and we got plenty of usage out of him. Wasn't Beuerlein like 29/30 when we signed him and took over as starter at 32/33? 32/33 isn't really that old for a modern NFL QB. He could easily play 6-8 more years if he takes care of himself and wants to play that long.

On the other hand, it is much easier to jettison those bad picks now than it was a little over a decade ago. Arizona was swiftly able to recover from their mistake on Josh Rosen. Washington cut bait from Dwayne Haskins. It hurts but at least you don't have a massive salary to jettison when you fug it up.

Choose the most likely.

Remember Cleveland spamming QB picks for a long time? That worked well for so many years.....

Consider you are talking to the resident Huddle Court Jester.

I lean this way. I have always liked Stafford and believe he would be fantastic with our current(about to be former) receiving weapons.

Yeah, I think Stafford has a lot of shelf life left if he decides to have a long career.

I hope to be able to respond, "Sorry, the correct answer was Kyle Trask" in a few months.

It's not the size of the site, it's how you use it.

You can't unsign that contract we have with CMC. What is done is done. You adjust and move on. You don’t try to trade a dude that, again I will point out, is literally at the lowest trade value of his young NFL career. The odds of obtaining the assets in return to make that worthwhile are EXTREMELY low.

Which direction are the skid marks?

Sometimes the difference between what you want and what you will take is quite different. If I were Houston, I definitely wouldn't put out in the press that I would take less than that.

Lol. I can understand that. Sometimes it's hard to see behind the curtain. Even with our guys who we love and aren't always good people. My favorite Panther of all time is still Steve Smith. I have never met the man but I have never heard a single positive thing about interacting with him. You know what though....I still love him to death. I will always love Steve Smith. He'd have to punch me like he did Ken Lucas for that to change.