kungfoodude

Yeah, I am thinking the QB market is going to be bananas. It does make me wonder if there is a very slight chance we might be able to move Teddy. I realize that is a huge logical leap but......maybe.

It's crazy to see this whole situation unfold. This is not the Richardson Panthers, that is for sure.

I was going to make a thread about this at some point but I will put it in here for now. Rivers has already retired, Brees may be right behind him, Brady could retire, Big Ben could retire, Aaron Rodgers could retire, etc, etc. I highly doubt all those happen but if even a quarter of them do, that creates more QB needs in the league. I would argue there might be more QB spots open in the NFL(depending on retirements and offseason moves) than we have seen in a long time. That all leads to more reaching at QB in the draft.

Well that is legit the stories we are getting. That he was the loudest voice advocating for him. In all honesty....is it that big of a stretch? A guy to come in and be the savior? Remember that he said prior to the season that he wasn't buying into the "rebuild" mode and that he thought we were a contender. It does kind of fit with that level of delusion....

The Colts maybe not because they are in a "win now" mode. Perhaps someone like the Jags, Jets or Pats would take draft capital for a short term cap hit.

I mean....it's a pretty bad contract for us if he isn't the starter in 2021. He's our highest paid player and would be by a HUGE margin(almost $10 mil) once we cut KK. I'd be willing to trade away a pick to be able to have that cap to roll over to 2022.

I could see this.

The issue is finding someone who wants to assume that kind of salary. It's going to be starter money, so it has to be a place they plan on starting him.

I assume they are perusing it for comic relief or I hope they are.

Oddly enough, it would take some work on the Bridgewater contract to make it attractive. In a trade he is still going to have an $18 mil cap figure next year and a $21 mil cap figure in 2022. It's a pretty rough contract for another team to assume.

It's the only thing that worked. That wave of Huddle outrage actually washed him out of the Panthers front offices. We did it!

They collect QB prospects that they inevitably jettison. Guess they got another one.

Correct. I could see a scenario in which we trade Teddy next season and give away a draft pick for the other team to take his salary. It would be a big help to our cap if we did draft or sign a QB and Teddy wasn't in the plans for 2021.

Well, two more rolls of the dice. Remember your first roll in a trade scenario would come up Deshaun Watson vs. whichever QB is available. You can't make moves based on the potential for injury, IMO. Some of that isn't controllable. As for the scenario of needing to build out the OL to protect him(or a rookie). That also falls back to scheme improvements(this was one of our better years in recent memory in allowing sacks and pressures) and front office improvements. You have to hope that our current front office actually gives a poo about the OL and knows what they are doing unlike the last two GM's.

I would trade the three first rounders, were it my personal decision. You just don't get many opportunities to get player of his caliber that early in their career. You may be technically talking about the guy who is the best player in franchise history and saying that ISN'T a leap for once. But it is a steep price to pay, if that were indeed the price.

The injury risk would be the same for a first round draft pick or anyone else.

No one likes to give away first round picks but at least we might be in a situation now where we can be more successful OUTSIDE the first round for a change. Additionally, keep in mind that IF your move to get Watson works out....those first round draft picks are going to be in the 20-32 range.

Yeah. My big regret was giving away my OG Peppers jersey when he engineered his way out of Carolina. Boy that was a huge mistake.

Cap hit 2021: $10.54 mil 2022: $35 mil 2023: $37 mil ($17 mil is a roster bonus, so this is essentially an opt out year if necessary) 2024: $32 mil 2025: $32 mil It gets a little high but if the cap starts going back up in 2022, it will end up looking like Cam's deal did in Carolina towards the end. Basically a pretty reasonable deal. It helps us a lot to have that $5.4 mil prorated bonus hit off the books.

The only real discussion is proven vs. unproven entity and the costs associated with each. Watson's value is astronomical. The value of the #8 overall pick his high, although yet to be determined because we don't even know if Fields, Lance or Wilson are still on the board at that point. None of the QB's in the draft, Lawrence included, would make me pass on taking a look at a deal for Watson if he were actually available. The cost may make my choice to go draft a guy easier but you can bet I would be on the phone talking to Houston.

I would say the likelihood of Wilson, Fields and Lance all being top 10 NFL QB's is slim to none.

This is actually why I have a hard and fast rule about a rookie needing to sign a second contract with us before I will buy their jersey.

fuging goose bumps. I have never seen that before. Wow.