kungfoodude

Rhule consistently rolling with guys like Erving and Elflein, despite their clearly poor play in their careers are why we struggle. We have a bad OL coach(was known when he wad hired) and a bad HC that probably fancies himself an OL expert because of his 15 minutes of OL coaching experience with the Giants. I said over and over last offseason that Teddy made the 2020 OL look far better than it was because he got rid of the ball so quickly. That isn't the case in 2021. Darnold has always held on to the ball too long trying to figure out what is going on in front of him and Cam has always tended to hold onto the ball too long trying to make a play. With a bad OL, that will get you drilled.....a LOT.

Almost all of those former successful coaches are not likely to be at all interested in us because of the poor ownership situation. I would much rather gamble on a coordinator than stick with Rhule. Sticking with Rhule means another 1-2 years being added to an eventual rebuild.

So Harbaugh, Tomlin or stick with Rhule??? Well the first two are highly unlikely so.....you just want to continue being a dumpster fire?

Draft. Beating a shitty Saints team when you are eliminated from the playoffs is pointless.

This is the mentality that has us with the current OL that we have. This is the Matt Rhule mentality.

Yeah, Payton is not an idiot. He will steer clear of Darnold.

I had that discussion with a buddy a few days ago. I think Luke jumping ship was a sign we mostly ignored.

1000% in. This further shows the joke Rhule is and also gets the most important goal accomplished.....

LT has been a need for more than a decade now. Also the most difficult position to find on offense. If we had not squandered Day 2 picks this past draft and this upcoming draft, this would have been solved. It is not unsual to be able to find a good starting center in the 2nd round. That said, I wouldn't be upset to get Linderbaum, although we will(rightfully) get skewered on positional value.

Will from The 4 Man Rush was pointing out something in the post game stream from last game, this is actually a bad year to be trying to trade down. There aren't any top flight QB prospects to draw major interest like 2021 and there are two teams with multiple top 12 draft picks that are likely to make it easier and cheaper to trade up. So, I hope Fitterer doesn't try getting cute here. Take BPA(preferably OL) and call it a day.

Guys, guys, guys.....listen....Rhule actually has a GOOD RECORD. We just can't see it!

Jesus. The numerology wierdo again.

You did selectively take away the defenders that were far, far better than our current ones.

Is Matt Rhule being sent home for good, tho?

I don't really think you understood what I said but that isn't super surprising.

Can't draft or can't develop? It's hard to definitively know.

Hahahahahaha! The Jags are such a joke. Khan has no clue what he is doing and no football background at all. They keep a GM who stinks and then hire a college coach who so clearly was in over his head he made the team a sideshow. Hahahahaha! What a dumpster fire of a franchise! Wait......

Look like?

I think the offseason will determine what our ceiling is. If we draft well and make smart signings, we will probably start hot yet again, only to watch as the NFL adjusts immediately to any new wrinkle and beat us to death with our obvious roster flaws. Or you could see more bad signings/trades(Darnold, Erving, Elflein, etc) and poor drafting. If we see an exodus of talent in free agency(DJack, Gilmore, Jones, Reddick, etc) to go with that or the obvious signs of good free agents avoiding us, the bottom may be another 1-3 win campaign.

I get the thought process of not wanting to go through all this again but just imagine the level of change in Rhule himself and then turnover in his staff that is probably necessary to alleviate most of the obvious flaws. I don't see how anyone can look at this from the outside and see a path forward. Perhaps that is the biggest issue with Tepper. He is an active and hands on owner who is too close to the situation to see the obvious. Not trying to make excuses for him but I can see how you can believe in someone so much that you become blind to their problems. Just human nature.

Our defense this year is overhyped to an extent. I think they have trouble with the 2010 OL(Gross, Wharton, Kalil, Schwartz, Williams) and Williams/Stewart. We definitely would struggle to pass on them but do we have the horses to adequately slow down the rushing attack the 2010 team could muster? How about TO's? 2010 team was -8 in TO's but also forced 29 on the year. 2021 is at -9 with a paltry 16 TO's forced. I think it comes down to coaching and I am gonna take John Fox to be able to dial up a plan to exploit the 2021 teams biggest weaknesses. It's an interesting thing to think about.