kungfoodude

The question is, why didn't we use him that way when we were in dire need last season? Either way, having competent LT play for a full season would be nice.

I wouldn't disagree in theory but I think Teddy sticking around is generally extremely unlikely

I think the performance under pressure will be another thing to watch. If he is able to re-program his bad habits when he is scrambling(where his decision making goes to absolute poo), that will be a big factor in him being successful

Why are we not including the full franchise history?

I don't have set stats for what I would consider success because Darnold has also been oft-injured, so I don’t know if totals will mean as much. I want to see him run the offense effectively and efficiently and for him to limit the bone headed errors. If he can perform at a Baker Mayfield level, I think that would be more than enough

The other part of that is getting the RIGHT football people in here. I suspect with this Darnold move we are gonna learn pretty quickly if we have the right staff or not.

I suspect keeping him is no longer an option. I don't think the relationship between the current staff and Teddy appears to be the best.

I think this is very likely the ultimate scenario. I think the league knows that he is likely to be cut and they can just negotiate a new contract versus have to negotiate his current bloated contract.

Speaking of delusional homerism..... I hope so, because the alternative is really, really bad. If this whole Rhule episode goes down in flames, I think we are gonna be looking at a pretty significant period of being a cellar dweller in the NFL. That is why I was so resistant to the kind of rebuild we were embarking on initially. Once you nose down into that dive, it makes it hard to pull up. Most franchises that opt to tear things down to the extent that we did spend an extended period of time in the NFL cellar before they are able to recover. The fact we were so competitive last year with such a terrible roster definitely gave us a lot of hope. I just hope it doesn't turn out to be Fool's gold.

I am sure if there is a QB available at 8 and we pass on them, you are gonna have every reporter in that post draft presser asking why we did. I think we will end up finding out what they think of Darnold if we pass on a QB or snag a WR/TE at 8.

I really think you are dramatically overvaluing Teddy. I would be pretty surprised if he nets anything more than a conditional 5th or 6th. I still ultimately believe we will just end up cutting him.

Yeah, and if he is a true disaster, we could be in position to draft a top 5 QB next season.

I still would have preferred to not have given up that 2nd rounder(which if he is a bust would be really nice to have). We gave up the equivalent of a late first round pick for him overall, so I guess it isn't the worst gamble in the world. I just don't like that we had to resort to a guy that has such an unbelievably low floor. The history of these reclamation projects is pretty unkind overall. I guess other than the "sugar or poo" outcome, we are also going to have a pretty strong idea of how good the coaching staff is, as well. If he shows that early first round talent here, Brady and Rhule can be lauded as the guys we need to get this rebuild accomplished. If he flames out, it's a pretty safe bet we will be headed towards having a new coaching staff in a couple of seasons.

Let's not forget his takes on Clausen and various other prospects. It's pretty easy to pull out portions of the data and show Kiper to be stupid but I kind of doubt the actual scouting community views him as much more informed than any other media bobblehead with little to no background in actual scouting. That said, I wouldn't hold the Kiper KOD too much against Darnold. There were quite a few sources questioning that decision. It isn't like he wasn't a polarizing prospect.

The fact that they are now talking about "consensual" instances is probably the nail in the coffin for Watson. If this is his kink it isn't too hard of a logical leap to get to perving on or even assaulting at least a few of the women. I think that is the smoke that obscures the whole "dirty lawyer" narrative. Guess we will see how bad this gets and how long he might have to be on the Exempt list. Big Ben slid through with these allegations(and worse) but that was also at a different time.

I can understand the delusional homerism, after all we all display it from time to time. It is part of being a fan. But, we are historically one of the NFL's worst franchises. No amount of head in sand is going to change that. Eventually we have to start actually consistently winning to change that narrative.

The fact that we basically never use Moton at LT, no matter how dire the scenario, tells me that we are two staffs into not thinking he can be a LT. If we take Sewell, let him get his reps at LT and grow. I am okay taking some initial lumps for the sake of development. I have to believe he would be our best LT option day one.

Yeah, I don't mind eating crow but I really dread the scenario where we are all-in on Darnold and he still remains....Sam Darnold. I don't want to see that because I don't want to already lose faith in the FO and coaching staff. Hence why I would be all-in on a QB at 8 if one is available. At least we have a very good hedge for that bet. Maybe you even end up with two good QB's.

Is being top 10 now bad?

Sorry that triggered you.

The pro-Darnold crowd is out in full force. I sure hope they are way more accurate than the pro-Teddy crowd.

Even worse than our neglect of the LT position since Gross has been the overall neglect of the OL for the past 3-4 seasons. We have to get serious about building an NFL caliber OL.

Yeah, I personally don't believe in him so I hope they aren't going all in on him. If one of the top 4 QB's slips and we do pass on them, I am gonna be on them like a pitbull if that move fails. Absolutely nothing about Darnold says we shouldn't have a solid plan B, IMO.

Oh, I don't care even remotely about those questions. That is such a fuging BS criticism of him, IMO. But he isn't a flawless prospect, to me. He still needs to develop and get stronger at the NFL level. I would say he is the best LT prospect in a few years, to me.