kungfoodude

Missed the game due to work. How did Ned look? Stats indicate he was sharp.

This is true, I am not factoring in his awfulness enough as a positive attribute for getting us a shot at another top 10 draft pick. However, the counter to that being, what if it also exposes how poorly our staff is at evaluating QB talent?

This is Colin Cowherd's career in a nutshell.

Too early. Let's see the draft first. Then we can jump the shark.

I think you have a decent chance of being wrong about him being cut.

The demand has largely been for starters but not highly paid backup QB's. There is a reason we had no success attempting to trade him, nor has he had success trying to get traded.

We needed this game. Hopefully we keep this momentum up in the 3rd and walk all over them in the second game, as well

This feels like a tra......

Mac Jones At 8, definitely not Parsons. Below 10, fine with Parsons.

My actual big board and my Panthers big board would look quite a bit different. I do adjust for our specific needs.

I believe they are still QB hungry because they seem to think we are pretty close to contending(which is obviously not the case). We will see if that turns out to be true, provided a top 4 QB is even an option at all for us. For me personally, seeing them draft a QB at 8 even after the Darnold trade will show me that they are still trying to find a guy and put us in a better position. If we stand pat on Darnold, my outlook will have changed from being cautiously optimistic about being "ahead of schedule" on our rebuild after the 2020 season. I will immediately switch to a "This Darnold thing either works or these guys have no idea what they are doing in the NFL" mindset. I want to be able to hold out hope for the franchise future for as long as possible. Even with Teddy stinking it up, I really enjoyed 2020 and seeing our young guys play well. I want to continue to be hopeful as I watch us lose games, knowing there is a plan and a future.

The QB market is crazy right now. Curious to see if it will come back to earth or it just stays this high for a while.

If he flames out, you will be able to tell that our current coaching staff doesn't have much ability to identify QB talent.

I believe in his ceiling quite a bit. I see it as higher than Wilson's. Gun to my head....I probably take Wilson as the safer bet. But, I also have Lance at 4 and he is an extremely polarizing prospect. My big board is a direct reflection of not seeing competent QB play since healthy Cam. That's a long streak of watching a bunch of "who dat" players pilot this sinking franchise.

If you think trading up for a QB in this draft was pricey, it might be even worse next season if the class is projected the way it is currently. All that with the prospect of another 2-3 veteran QB's possibly looking at retirement. The rookie QB situation is always largely hopeful to some extent, even if his doubters are many. It's the fresh, new prospective franchise QB smell. I still think we can end up with an elite player at 8, whether both LT's are gone and/or all top 4 QB's.

If you just look at the history of top 10 QB's who flamed out at their initial stop, the odds of him panning out are fairly long. As I have said a few times in the post-Darnold era, I understand the homerism/"Hope springs eternal" outlook by the majority of the fanbase. I am just in the same position as I was last offseason around this time, seeing a QB I knew was very unlikely to be the answer we needed and wondering how much farther along the rebuilding path we will be in 2021. I will say that I genuinely would rather watch the top 4 guys be off the board at 8 than watch us pass up on one. Not matter how much I will like the prospect we signed, I will dread watching the future of whichever of those guys slips past us. But, maybe Darnold just blows up and proves all this doubt wrong. Wouldn't that be such a nice, easy solution? I just wish I believed in it.

I expect to land a good player at 8. The thing I hope we don't end up talking about is how we passed on one of the bright young QB stars of the NFL in 2-3 years while we are still mired in either a QB search or a QB/coaching staff search.

It would be nice to go into the 2022 offseason NOT wondering how many years this rebuild will last. Sam Darnold is more likely than not going to lead to that sort of mindset. At least with a rookie QB there can be some sort of hope we can trick ourselves into, however fleeting. I think the bulk of the fanbase would be furious about passing on Fields. I don't think the Sam Darnold fan club is as deep as you believe them to be.

1. Lawrence 2. Fields 3. Wilson 4. Lance 5. Sewell 6. Slater 7. Pitts 8. Chase

And you have to remember that your personal opinion isn't the Panthers. It is entirely possible they would draft a QB at 8. We will see whether that is even an option in a couple of weeks. IMO, the odds of one of the top 4 being available are getting slimmer by the day.

You are accuse others of injecting your own personal feelings into the situation but you are literally doing this. You even said that Rhule didn't comment on Darnold being the starter.

You seriously think we'd see a falling QB like Fields or Lance and just say, "Nah?" If we do......we pretty much deserve what we get for the next few years.

I would rather gamble on the unknown. Darnold is mostly a known at this point. I am 100% fine hedging that bet by taking a QB at 8, if one of the top 4 is available.

There are definitely a lot of really dumb franchises in the top 7. I don't know that any of them are dumb enough to take Parsons.