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And why would we want to be further committed to a player that we are likely to jettison this offseason? Remember, we would be pushing dead cap into years where we need to be signing contracts for our core players. That's the classic Hurney move of pushing the cap problems down the road.

You just answered your own question about the issue with the 49ers and it isn't a RB. Not to mention after their starting running back went down with injury, their platoon of five RB's had 378 rushes, 1641 yards and 15 TD's. Not too shabby for a team that was plagued with RB injuries all year long. They actually finished 15th in the NFL in rushing yardage as a team and 11th in rushing TD's. Their struggles had a lot more to do with the passing unit that produced the 20th most passing TD's and 3rd most INT's. All they really need to do is get healthy, after all, they still have the same RB's that produced the second most rushing yards and most rushing TD's in 2019 for a 13-3 Super Bowl team. In CMC's career year, the Panthers had the 14th most rushing yards and 5th most rushing TD's, for comparison. The biggest upgrade they should be looking at is a QB. That team is stacked with talent, they just got slammed with injuries in 2020.

It doesn't have a strong record of success in that time period, mainly the opposite. Only 30% of the instances had a top 10 yardage or rushing TD performance and resulted in a winning record. CMC is not drastically different than Ladainian Tomlinson or Marshall Faulk. One who had great career postseason success, one who had almost none.

You have lost your mind if you think anyone in the NFL would give up 2 1st rounders for CMC. Show me one team that is a RB away from a Super Bowl, has the cap space to take him and the draft picks to spend. Just name a single team. I'll give you a hint, it isn't the 49ers.

I wouldn't have given that up for Adams either. But they also use him in a very unusual way as a pass rusher, so I suppose that was worth it for them. We will see how wise that is/was when we see what his price tag is this offseason or next. The deal they gave him was basically $9.9 mil for 2021. Nothing absurd.

I'd be 100% down for that.

Bad comparison. Kyle Boller was a 4 year player with Cal that had a 47.8% career completion percentage. Boller was almost certainly going to be a bust in the NFL.

Is this the official Fields bump? #Herbert2020

2 1sts for McCaffery is insanely ridiculous. You are talking about almost a Khalil Mack price for a RB. A RB trade of that price hasn't been seen in the NFL since probably the Hershel Walker trade.

Well, let's not get too far ahead of ourselves because we haven't even hit free agency or the draft yet. The opportunities may be there but there is an entire offseason's worth of league moves before we have even a partial look at the picture.

I just realized the "OR" statements are skewed. I will correct that and repost.

I think the coaching staff appears to be unwilling to do that.

Well it isn't just my opinion, it is largely all the successful franchises in the NFL. But I suppose if we take unsuccessful franchises into account, then there is at least a minority of teams that believe it makes sense to waste money on a position of lower value. I wouldn't even argue that he doesn't deserve that money based on Elliott's contract. We just didn't need to be the team that did it. Unsurprisingly, it was the worst GM in the history of the franchise that authored that deal.

https://www.carolinahuddle.com/topic/168088-big-rumor/

I think the fact that we as a franchise want to move on should tell the story if you couldn't see it with your eyes or deduce it from the statistics. He's a journeyman backup QB. That's why this will be the third team in 3 seasons to get rid of him. After all, the Jets chose Sam Darnold and Josh McCown over him, the Saints chose Drew Brees, Taysom Hill and ultimately Jameis Winston over him. What we know is that he didn't lose his job to PJ Walker and Will Grier, so I guess there is that.

$17 mil and $21 mil is not a great backup QB contract, however. I would assume that whoever we trade him to better be convinced he is starting material. I am still thinking we basically have to give up a pick to get rid of him.

I think that depends on how free agency and the draft goes. Shaq is in line to get cut at some point based on that salary but he is also the only real starting caliber NFL LB on our roster(Chinn is destined for safety). If we can't replace him this offseason, it doesn't hurt us to keep him around for one more season until we can replace him. We can't cut all the overpaid players at once and very easily replace them.

This is just one bit of data but the whole of the picture has been pretty clear. Successful teams don't spend mega-bucks on RB's or at least they don't for very long. We have 2-4 more years of interesting data incoming because we have a lot of guys in the past two years that got mega bucks deals and Barkley will probably be another one coming up.

Actually, it was more common back then it was now. Only 12 of those 40 instances are from 2016-2020. It's almost as if the league has decided that you shouldn't spend a lot of money on RB's..... In fairness, there are 7 RB's that will make $8+ mil in 2021 and 6 the two years after. This is of course assuming some of those guys don't get cut during that period, which is likely.

I remember people making that argument at the time. Admittedly, we couldn't have predicted the cap drop but it wasn't hard to predict that making a RB the highest paid in the league wasn't a good idea.

Flat $8 mil. There have only been 40 instances of a RB getting $8+ mil in a season during that period.

Some interesting data I complied from salary cap and production.

That wasn't a good price, however. The argument for extending early IS to get a good price and that simply did not happen. It was an a bad signing at the time and in hindsight it looks a lot worse. Doesn't mean he wasn't worth that money at all, but the timing was idiotic and the amount was directly counter to what the majority of winning teams in the NFL do.

At the moment, it has been far from a bargain at $25 mil paid for three games. He will need to stay healthy and produce for that to be the case. I don't think "bargain" and top paid player at the position are really ever in the same sentence without some serious team hardware to be considered.