kungfoodude

https://www.startalkradio.net/show/understanding-the-coronavirus-covid-19/ This might help some of the people that are losing their minds.

Since I am on pet peeves, don't wipe your goddamn nose with your bare hands or your fuging shirt sleeve(unless there is literally no other option). Even if you wipe/blow your nose with a tissues, wash the motherfugers afterwards. It doesn't take that much effort to do that. If there isn't a sink, use some damn hand sanitizer. And if you are leaving a public restroom that has a handle on the inside of the door(already a major fail), use a paper towel in your hand to open the damn door. It doesn't take any extra effort to do this if paper towels are available. For me, even if that is not an option, I will open the door with one finger of my non-dominant hand. It's just simple poo like that you can do every day that will generally limit your exposure to common bugs.

Yeah, it's a lot of FUD being spread. It's easy to be reasonable and live a relatively normal existence. Common sense is about a 4% trait in modern America.

You want him to go roaming in public instead? Unless you have other high risk people at the house, it's fine. It's like being in the house with people that have the flu. Stay the hell away from them and sanitize their poo. I grew up in a household with 7 people and bouts of the flu meant the carrier got relatively confined to an area and everything got sanitized. It does actually work.

Oh and for the coughing/sneezing folks out there, don't cough/sneeze into your damn hands. Cover your mouth with your shirt/sweater/etc or sneeze/cough into the crook of your arm. Don't spray germs all over your damn hands. I see people do this all the time all year around and it drives me nuts. That is exactly how you spread illnesses.

Get tested. If your symptoms become serious or you are in the high risk demographics, then it is a big concern. If you opt to just not get tested, stay home until you are better and sanitize your household after you do get done. No reason to spread it around unnecessarily. If you must go out, take extreme precautions that you are not hacking and coughing everywhere or at least have the common courtesy to put some gloves on until you get back to your house.

Drive through only seems like a reasonable compromise.

Exactly. This is a serious concern and warrants serious considerations. It is not the zombie apocalypse. We have a big chunk of people that need to chill the fug out and also a chunk of people that need to quit being stupid and take the appropriate measures.

Infants are not at high risk. 0-9 is one of the lowest mortality groups according to preliminary statistics. People are certainly dying, the same way they do with other viruses. Luckily this virus has a low mortality rate for most age demographics.

We will see. We are the least prepared for that sort of situation, to be completely honest. Much less prepared than we were for this virus.

The world isn't ending. It's just "worse flu." Unless you are 55+ or are in poor health, you should not have grave concerns, just concerns. Be cautious, be reasonable and the walls will not evaporate around you.

Well, hopefully we will just not see a mass quarantine and that calamity can be avoided entirely.

Lighten up, Francis.

That sounds good in theory.

Quarantine will be absolutely ruinous to this country, especially if it is extended. The problem is that people's fears are getting in the way of being logical. People get emotional because they see the death tolls(and ignore the demographics and death rates) and they don't consider the impact of putting 10-25% of the population(my estimate) at the edge of survival/homelessness. That will be disaster of epic proportions. Remember during our last crash with a "liberal" leadership, it was corporate America that received a bailout, not the general population/homeowners. Do you think regular citizens will receive a bailout for the sin of being poor this go around? I think not.

I disagree. If you lock everything down, that will be a much bigger event than the spread of this virus could ever hope to create. How do you propose to take proper economic interventions when the food supply is interrupted? The shelves are bare now, how do you propose to continue to manufacture and feed the public without employees? How will they be delivered? All those logistics trains to our stores will be interrupted, how will that be remedied? If people are worried about the homeless problem now....watch what 4+ weeks of almost no economic activity will create. Roughly 25% of US citizens live within 50% of the poverty line. How well do you think they will weather this storm? To quote a previous post in this thread, if you are talking about the impact of 1.5 million deaths from the virus, how do you account for potentially over 80 million people being in financial ruin? This is exactly what I am talking about. A national quarantine beyond a couple of weeks will be an unbelievably devastating blow to small businesses and regular people. Something that should be of a far greater concern than this virus simply spreading, as it will anyway.

I think that is a big mistake to assume it will take a long time. It is not going to take an extended shutdown to torpedo the economy. It is merely going to take 2-4 weeks before serious chaos starts in earnest and is difficult to recover from. That's where this will differ from the 2008 crash. That was the financial institutions hanging by a thread and the effects of that being relatively delayed to the general public. Quarantine will have immediate impacts on the public.

Bob Evans BEFORE taking a long distance family trip?? Man, that's coma food. I'd be sleeping behind the wheel.

The longer they keep up quarantine measures, the further down this hole it will end up. An extended quarantine with no safety net measures will basically torpedo not only the economy but it will wreck the American public, who largely lives paycheck to paycheck. Quarantine is probably literally the last thing the American public needs and I know that sounds cold but it is also very true. Right now the market plummeting has limited impacts on the general public(in the short term) because so few Americans actually have substantial funds in it and those that do are going to be working for companies that are much more likely to offer paid leave. But once you starting breaking the lower classes(who also don't have the ability to stock up on weeks worth of groceries at a time) that is when you are really going to see a quick acceleration of this whole thing. Aside from the arguments I have made regarding the quarantine statistically, this one should seriously scare people. If you are going to close all the stores, all the restaurants, all the businesses make that next logical leap to what is going to happen when food is scarce and people are not getting paid.

Bob Evans? Only old people go to Bob Evans......oh poo....he's trying to get rid of their olds. Damn.

You just said you probably had coronavirus previously! What are you, the Angel of Death???

Yep. The olds are at a high risk. They need to be staying at home, flat out.

And this is how it begins...........

Well the data from the Chinese CDC(take that for what it's worth) indicated that 20-29 had a mortality rate of 0.2%. That kind of fits with the "won't happen to me" mentality that exists with that age range anyway. So does selfish and dumb behavior.

Not to mention we have 5.4 times the population that Italy does so that is going to skew that graphic. Italy's rate of infection would be considerably higher based on that data.