kungfoodude

Yeah, I think it was obvious he was there working to be what those guys were. Hence the mistakes he was making and the trainer correcting him. The point being, he is learning what it takes to be a professional. Putting that kind of work into perfecting your craft and especially around elite CB's and NFL starters is exactly that. Really, the biggest advantage of Horn is probably being Joe Horn's son. I have zero doubt that he preached how much work it takes to become a professional. The hope is that accelerates his learning curve a lot. I expect Jaycee to get beat by some of these elite guys we have in the division early but perhaps only for a season or two. This was very exciting to see and I will give a counter example, that being the clip we saw of Jackson losing his cool a couple of seasons ago while getting coached/advised. I am glad to see Horn is already doing NFL veteran things rather than thinking they already have this figured out or are good enough as is.

Ouch.

OP has taken a full gulp of the current Kool Aid. I am a lot more skeptical of the overall moves we made but I am willing go give our choices a "wait and see." I definitely acknowledge that if Slater or Fields turn into league stars, we might be looking kind of hard at our choices this past offseason. But, it's a "whole picture" thing. If Darnold miraculously becomes something he isn't, then it would be a moot point. Same for if Horn becomes a top 5 CB. The people arguing any of this is set in stone are completely absurd. Fields may very well bust, just as well as Horn or Lawrence or Sewell or anyone. They wouldn't be close to the first "sure thing" first round picks to not be able to make that jump or be riddled with injuries or have some other issues keep them from being NFL stars.

Aight. Need advice. How do you exit a sports bar with a full erection?

Put one more in. I want to ruin them.

I would agree we are slumping. We need to win this to start that slump busting.

Hard for me to express how much I want a seven game, injury riddled series for the Caps vs. Bruins.

This is nerve racking. This is why I didn't want to lay down to them the last game.

Yeah and I don't think fans appreciate how widely the specific teams draft boards vary, either. When people start going bananas skewering the media mock drafts that are outside the box, I don't think they realize that is also the case with a real NFL franchise draft board. The variance can be pretty large on single player evals. I thought Tremble was a reach because I don't see relatively one dimensional TE's as having even third round value. But, I also don't coach nor offensively scheme for the Carolina Panthers. So, my difference in opinion from them might be astronomical.

I guess that means Marty Hurney is more qualified than us, in that case?

Then why are you taking about college and studying?

100% agree. I think it was pretty clear how poorly Troy Pride Jr. played last year but I am not gonna write him off until the end of his 2nd or 3rd season without obvious improvement. We have Josh Norman, James Bradberry or even to some extent Daryl Worley as recent examples if guys at the position that took a little time and experience before the light clicked on. I am interested to see how the "spray and pray" draft method works with all these trades for lower round picks. I certainly hope that increases the chances of us getting more two deep players.

Yeah, any of the guys past about the 4th round that stick around on the roster for even 3 years are basically a win. Not even as starters, just as depth guys. Statistically, that is a big win based on the history of the draft. That's why I try and remind people to pump their brakes on a lot of this draft class. Don't come in here trashing them when they don't meet your unrealistic expectations. I feel the same way about Darnold and Horn. If Darnold is who he has been the past three years, you guys better be directing your vitriol towards Fitt and Rhule. Sam didn't trade for himself and he didn't draft himself. If Horn isn't a first or second year star, don't come in here trashing this kid when it often takes these rookie DB's a little bit of time(2-3 seasons) before they start hitting their stride. Be patient and direct the butthurt where it should be directed.

We will see how it turns out. I expect he will be a very good blocking TE/H-back and fill a role in that regard. The people expecting him to be a consistent pass catching threat are very likely to be disappointed. That's what I meant by the "outlier" comment. The examples of outliers are easy to remember precisely because they are outliers. The averages don't work that way, however. I guess we have to hope he is an outlier. If we somehow landed a class of outliers, then you have to consider the new FO and coaching staff to be hitting on genius level drafts. I am certainly perfectly happy if that is the case and my skepticism is unwarranted.

Inflation soldiers on while wages have been relatively flat for more than two decades. Oh we are all getting screwed in one way or another.

I don't think there is any question Ned is the guy. Not to me, anyway.

We should have them. Panthers news is about to be in a lull. For fug's sake, they talk about non-sports there all the time. Just look at all the soccer threads.

I wouldn't bother with this guy. He thinks playing recreation soccer at 6-7 years old makes him a "former athlete."

Funny, because those are multibillion dollar industries. I guess those are fake dollars, eh?

Understand, you are talking out of your ass and also never actually worked at sports.

Probably not until next offseason, provided another team doesn't get him first. At this rate, the smartest move he could probably make is to play this season a day ball out. If he does that and is relatively contrite about the situation, people will eventually be less pissed off. If he is available for our QB search next offseason, I wouldn't be surprised to see us involved.

Did you play college football?

I don't generally agree that NFL players are overly compensated as a whole(individually, certainly). Like you said, it was a lifetime of hard work to get there, most of it without compensation. Congrats on your son's accomplishment. All his hard work certainly paid off, as well.

Another Huddle pipedream player. Outliers are outliers for a reason.

Agreed. If he really is an elite guard, that was a phenomenal pick.