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In other college football news: Lanoris Sellers and Arch Manning........GO BACK TO SCHOOL AND KEEP PREPARING. Not ready for prime time yet.

Hence why I say do a middle of the road change, if there is any.

Yes but the rules are always different in the end zone. PI, sacks, penalties, etc. That's why I don't bristle at it. The end zone almost always has a different set of rules for just about everything.

Yes but the end zone is actually different. It's the same with kickoffs. Basically there is no actual penalty for being wildly careless with the ball and a potential albeit unlikely avenue for offensive fugery. I think if you change it, make it the same rule as a punt/kickoff going out of the end zone or into the end zone. Same result. That way you penalize the offense but not enough to change possession.

I don't absolve Canales. He benched Bryce last year but now all of a sudden he can't? Doesn't make sense. He is as guilty as the rest.

Yeah but what do you do is the question? Boot them back to the 20?

I can't say that I agree with the "can't fire him because he's mediocre." He has actually largely been more bad than mediocre. But, you are spot on with the job being even less attractive than it was before. Most candidates are going to turn down interviews with us even without that move. With another head coach being canned, you are probably basically stuck dumpster diving even deeper than when got you Dave Canales.

Honestly, same script as usual. Effective ball control offense and get pressure on Stafford early and often. If you can't do both, it's gonna be a long day.

It's one of the biggest reasons I don't buy the tired "they've changed!" narratives about Tepper, Morgan or Canales. Well....none of them have appeared to change enough to move on at QB. In fact, when it basically came down to Bryce versus our last head coach(I do realize it wasn't Bryce himself involved in any of this), Tepper not only swiftly fired Frank Reich but he immediately insulted him at the press conference where he fired him. You don't get to be a laughingstock accidentally. It takes a lot of hard work and the Tepper Panthers have worked tirelessly to fug this up so badly.

Fields is actually worse to watch, hence why I consistently don't want anything to do with AR. Fields is way worse BECAUSE he has every physical advantage imaginable. That's what makes him infinitely more frustrating. At some level, it is easier to understand why Bryce sucks. He isn't physically gifted in any way. It's his gross lack of fundamentals and field generalship which is so infuriating.

Lock them inside their hotel rooms.

I will always watch. I just want to see a healthy Dalton and a different version of QB sucking. At least give me some QB suckage variety.

I am just tired of Bryce at this point. Let's just end this and move on to the offseason knowing the Bryce era is over.

We need Chatty and Slavin healthy. They really limit the mistakes our sketchier defenseman make.

It's a lot of surface area to have to heal.

That's what they were saying about Nick Sirianni about 2 seasons ago. He also has a .700 winning percentage. People also called Dan Campbell a lunatic upon his hiring.

Yep. He actively avoided us and other bad situations to wait and find a situation that set him up for success. He is a very shrewd guy doing so. Way too smart to be swayed by someone like Tepper.

I would 100% not. He is one of the very few worse than Bryce and actually substantially so. Would have still required a trade up too.

I would rather watch a washed Dalton than Bryce at the moment. It's much more understandable to watch a 37 year old backup struggle than a 3rd year #1 overall draft pick.

I will give that a "maybe." Very much not convinced on Canales.

I agree. Two holes FTW!

1. fug TikTak, I ain't clicking that stupid poo. 2. This is really very situationally dependent. Coaching is a huge part but sometimes you step into a scenario where a lot of building needs to happen that is largely out of your control. Recent examples(Last season's hiring cycle): 1. Ben Johnson Johnson chose the OVERWHELMINGLY best open coaching job due to a combination of solid ownership, a solid front office and the most talented roster of the open jobs from that cycle. Negatives were, insanely stacked division. Results have so far indicated that this coaching change has been a massive boost. 2. Mike Vrabel Vrabel went a different direction. He went to a franchise that has solid ownership, a mediocre front office and one of the worst rosters in the NFL. However, he has a track record of NFL head coaching success AND lucked into one of the easiest schedules in NFL history(I believe 3rd easiest). Even with that caveat, a clear indicator that coaching has been a huge boost. 3. Pete Carroll Carroll chose one of the NFL's most volatile franchises. Notoriously bad ownership, very bad front office and a terrible roster. But, Carroll is a HOF caliber NFL HC with success at every stop. At the moment, coaching has not been able to overcome the apparent obstacles. In fact, it's been a complete disaster to the extent that Carroll has already fired multiple coaches. One could certainly argue that pethaps Pete has lost his touch but regardless, this coaching change didn't result in a turnaround and Carroll's future there seems in doubt. 4. Aaron Glenn Glenn's first HC opportunity was a doozy. Near worst ownership, a mediocre front office(at best) and a talented core group of players on an underwhelming roster. This experiment has been quite the ride to date. Glenn's personnel decisions have seemingly led to multiple close game losses(2-5 in games decided by one score or less) and the FO decided to have a roster firesale prior to the trade deadline for a wealth of draft capital. The question will be if Glenn will be given the time to actually see this future draft capital realized, now that a significant chunk of the talented core is not longer there. Coaching has not made a difference but is the franchise now setting him up to fail further? 5. Liam Coen Coen picked a mixed bag. Terrible ownership, a remade front office he essentially had a hand in selecting(or at the miminum influenced) and a middling roster. The early results show promise even if the roster shows significant flaws(and Coen shows visible frustration with his "franchise" QB every Sunday). Could be close to turning a 4 win team into a playoff berth. Coaching has mattered. 6. Brian Schottenheimer This was resoundingly viewed as a bad hire but it's also under challenging circumstances. Bad ownership in the sense that the ownership is also the front office, a future Tepper dream I assume. Very talented but very flawed roster. The initial results have been...interesting. A Cowboys team that was a bad 7-10 after a previous streak of three 12 win seasons is now....mediocre? Couple that with wild roster changes prior to the start of the season and up to the trade deadline and it makes for an incomplete picture. It's not much progress but it doesn’t appear to be regressing either. TBD. 6. Kellen Moore Moore chose the most challenging of all openings. The Saints are in the midst of a simulateous roster teardown and attempted rebuild. Decent ownership, a mixed bag in the front office(great at evaluating draft talent, less so in free agency and in salary cap management). The Saints have been awful but, they were expected to be awful. To that note, they were net sellers before the trade deadline. It was reported that Moore secured an agreement that this is long term building effort prior to taking the position so his status seems safe even while the team flounders week to week. Difficult to grade this now as the entire scenario seems to be a long term strategy. TBD.

AR already got benched. Permanently. We have been more than patient enough.

I was at the past two games. Nice to see some of these chances get in the net again. I do think we play with a little different energy when Bussi is in net.

I think you gotta put Freddie as the #3. Rod won't do it but he should.