kungfoodude

I would disagree about how many "good" QB's are in this draft. Not really one I would say that is worth investing draft capital on a QB in the first three rounds. We will see closer to the draft.

I don't think I would expect a lot more stretching the field. Just quicker decision making.

Well CMC was rarely the reason we were winning or losing games. Hence why you don't generally pay a RB that kind of coin. Not to mention he was insanely injury prone. He still is. It was just a poor investment we rightfully pivoted from. And then immediately squandered all the resources we received in return and made the team worse. You know, Tepper Panthers style!

That is where I do sometimes get annoyed with the tanking crowd at the end of every year. Draft position can help a lot, it definitely can. But good evaluation will overwhelmingly outshine draft positioning every single fuging time. It's why I rage against the "development" guys so much. I agree we don't develop players well, I get it. But that problem PALES in comparison to the evaluation issues we have.

It's funny how quickly people forget the "I wish we drafted like *insert successful NFL team*" comments during the season when the offseason hits. Then it's fire everyone, cut everyone, draft this RAS God, etc, etc. Look at how common it is for ALL those teams we talked about to be taking top players at their positions consistently throughout most drafts. BPA, high value guys. Constantly. They aren't reaching or trading up for the XL's, DJ Johnson's or the like. They make more smart decisions than dumb ones. It's that fuging simple.

Maybe. That's not a Bills team that has been playing very elite, however. If it is close or we win, I am not exactly gonna chalk that up to us being a contender.

Yeah and I think that directly relates to his drop in completion percentage. That On target percentage would also have almost equaled the best season in Pat Mahomes career so I do think that was likely to come back to Earth. I think he is definitely better than the 64% he is at now but also not an 80% guy either. More like a career 70-75% guy.

If you look at almost all Daniels stats, they are as good or better than last year minus perhaps Completion Percentage. I don't think Daniels himself is having very much less individual success than the Redskins are reverting to the mean. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/46003861/nfl-teams-likely-decline-lose-more-games-2025-season-predictions-vikings-chiefs-commanders-lions-colts#wsh Barnwell wrote about them in the preseason as a team that had an inordinate amount of luck or success in one score games that wasn't very likely to be repeated.

I would heavily push back on the notion of Tomlin and Cowher inheriting "collapsed teams." From 1980 to 1991(prior to Cowher and after their Super Bowl victories) the Steelers experienced just 4 sub .500 seasons. In fact the winning percentage for those years was 0.505. At most that was relatively mediocre, something fairly akin to the pre-Tepper Panthers. From Cowher through Tomlin(1992 to Present) it has been the NFL's best franchise. 22 playoff appearances, 4 Super Bowl Appearances, 2 Titles, 15 times winning the division. In fact they have only experienced 3 sub .500 records in that 34 season span. That isn't ever a scenario where rebuilding happens. It's constant and consistent retooling so that your franchise floor is always high. It's smart business decisions, exceptional drafting and quality personnel moves that create a situation where that floor STAYS high. It was precisely BECAUSE we opted to go through a complete teardown and "rebuild" without any of that competence being in the organization at all that led us to where we are currently. A situation that will more than likely continue for well over a decade longer. Long term successful franchises do not "rebuild." They are in a constant state of competent flux that sustains them through some leaner periods without ripping the foundation completely out that led to that success in the first place.

Well, I think that's basically a Bryce thing. Dalton is not gonna be a significant media threat to him and is also a very capable backup. So does bringing in a Daniel Jones make a lot of sense if you are just gonna hear the chants for him every time Bryce struggles? IMO, it has been they are sold on Bryce and don't want a threat to his development. Dalton isn't a threat.

Bryce and CJ have similar Time to Throw stats(2.81 vs. 2.73). From PFR: Bryce's Pressure Percentage this season has been 21.9% with a 21.4% Blitz% and a 2.5 Sec Pocket Time. CJ's Pressure Percentage this season has been 14.3% with a 20.7% Blitz% and a 1.8 Sec Pocket Time. So it seems like Bryce is getting as much pressure but the pressure it getting to CJ more. CJ has a 7.21% Sack Percentage to 4.68% Sack Percentage.

IIRC, win rates are basically sustaining your block for 2.5 seconds. The theory behind that being that is a reasonable amount of time to not get your ass whipped and let the QB throw the ball. It's a decent general idea of how solid guys are at stoning their competiton on an average basis. It's limited in some ways.

Banking your hopes on a couch FA that has a cup of tea NFL career to date as an almost 31 year old QB is certainly something. Especially when you consider that he has spent literally zero time in our offense so far. I think that White might be solid competition and possibly be better than Hendon Hooker, which is certainly a very low bar to clear. That's probably about where the level is for White. He's a potential upgrade to our PS QB.

Yeah, that "Me against the world" mentality can work....when you are right and know what you are doing. But if you don't know what you are doing and can't accept that you need to learn, that is an impossible hill to climb.

I don't think he has a "hands off" mode. If you look at his business career it was built on eschewing the normal path and doing it his own way on his own terms. I don't envision that softening. It rarely does with advanced age.

He is much more decisive with the ball. He also is less suited for extending plays than Bryce. But he also has a little better pocket presence, as well. My prediction, assuming he starts, is that he will do a little better than Bryce has. I don't expect that to lead to a victory nor do I expect him to light the world on fire.

We have literally made almost every mistake in the book, some several times, since Tepper assumed control. The sad truth is, we are likely doomed while he is in charge.

Why? He has almost no NFL abilities at all.

PJ Walker is another in a long line of Panther backups that hold this ridiculously high place in Huddle lore for literally no reason. Walker was an XFL/CFL caliber player.

I am gonna keep pushing back on the notion that there is some secret layer to the Canales playbook that he can't call because of Bryce. Dalton is just more capable of making quick reads and getting the ball out quicker than Bryce has been so far. Dalton is also a little more of a gambler than Bryce.

Had he gotten another 1k season, he would have broken Jerry Rice's record for consecutive 1k seasons.

It's the "I can fix them" nonsense that human beings always have.

Well the most common record during both their tenures was 7-9. I was heavily against the massive teardown that most of the Huddle wanted after 2018. I kept warning people that successful franchises don't do that type of poo. Turns out....successful franchises don't do that type of poo.

If we keep this "every other" RB nonsense going, it is liable to get ugly for us early. Ride Dowdle and put them in a hole early.

I am not advocating for Tua just saying a non-mushed Tua isn't the worst case scenario for Bryce as a ceiling. But it's also not a top 10 contract player nor a player worth the price we paid to get him.