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I think those numbers aren't that good if our DL is allowed to hit them. We probably still have a lot of work to do on the back end of the D but that DL will be fierce all year long.

It wouldn't matter that much. Our OL was going to look shaky no matter what. This should literally shock zero people.

Guys, no reason to flip poo. It's a process. Any reasonable person knew that "top 10 defense" talk was ridiculous. Baby steps. If we have across the board improvements on that unit over the course of the season, at least we are on the right path. Seems like a mixed bag overall but basically what I think the more reasonable Panther fans expected. Some good, some bad. Still a work in progress and that's okay.

This is both good and bad.

Basically this. It probably hurts Darnold a little but I don't think it should get the team down too much. 16 more games to play after that one.

He's a standard issue dumbass. NASCAR reporter that ESPN figured "2 birds, 1 stone!" with the Panthers assignment.

Yeah, and depending on the wrinkles we may not have the cushion we did last year. All new staff to figure out last season.

I don't think I would read too much into the preseason whether he struggles or plays well. Our first real check for him should be after about Game 4. If it is trending bad, we might be in trouble. If it is trending good, we might be okay.

"According to ESPN's David Newton" Stopped reading there.

I am not sure I have seen bigger red flags than that site. WTF

I liked some things and didn't like others. I really liked the 2020 draft so this was a huge step down, IMO. But, we could get some impact player long term in Horn and Marshall and maybe some key roles players like Tremble, Nixon, Smith. Anything beyond that would be great.

Of the 41 LS's listed on overthecap.com for 2021(one is currently unsigned/cut): 5th Round: 1 (Joe Cardona - #166 overall/Pats) 6th Round: 3(Blake Ferguson - #185 overall/Dolphins, Thomas Fletcher - #222 overall/Panthers, Camaron Cheeseman - #225 overall/WTF) 7th Round: 2(Clark Harris - #243 overall/Packers, Hunter Bradley - #239 overall/Packers) UDFA: 35

If you need a login, that is a pretty big red flag for streaming.

Well, they said the same about the Jets....

I also don't think he will be the same level of loss if he gets poached off the PS as Butker was. Kickers can make or break you(reference Slye, Joey). I hated the pick because we could have simply signed him as a UDFA(although Washington went dumb after us too, so who knows). Ideally, JJ keeps rocking out next season and until his contract is up and then we can stash Fletcher on the PS until he takes over. If that happens, all butthurt will be rendered null and void.

Preaching to the choir. I just don't know if the staff feels the same way.

No question. I definitely wouldn't put money on betting it would be a better class. However, it could happen. Even if it is a good class, we might be just good enough to have to trade up to get a guy anyway. It is all to be determined. I don't believe even one iota in Darnold but our best case scenario is if he is the guy. It solves so many problems. We just have to hope against all odds it happens. If anything, we are due as Panthers fans to have some kind of miracle like that.

Yeah and I don't think that would be a good thing. I don't know. It's also a potential path to disaster. I definitely tend to lean rookie but I also understand why a coach that might be feeling some pressure would feel otherwise.

It will be a bigger waste if he doesn't beat out JJ. IMO, we were creating problems where there were none on a roster with ample enough problems. That was why I was so against that pick. If we had to be in a bidding war for a UDFA, so be it.

Well, we don't know how the 2022 class will end up, either. Sometimes they get more stacked as the season(college) progresses.

Not saying I want him, just saying they might feel enough heat to go for another vet. After all, they have done that the past two seasons.

I tend to agree. The heat will start to rise on the staff and I think since Rhule is calling the shots, he is gonna get a little antsy. Will be curious to see if it is in the draft or via trade. Jimmy G likely to be available next offseason.

Not even close to enough. Burns needs to CRUSH him this season.

Like any of these things, hindsight will tell us what the right decision was. It's even possible there were only good or bad choices.