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He seems to be further along in his development than either Tremble or Sanders in the equivalent amount of NFL time.

I think it has been so long ago that we saw great QB play that some people have literally forgotten what it looks like.

I was one of the biggest "draft Bryce" proponents after we made that ill fated trade up. Believed in all that field reading ability, etc. I was wrong. Completely. He was/is basically a project QB with a severely limited ceiling. This far into the project, I am just not seeing the evidence this will end up working out aside from him possibly being an above average #2 QB. Certainly, most of us here are not highly experienced ex-college football or NFL players/coaches/scouts/etc. But it really doesn't take THAT trained of an eye to see when a QB keeps failing or flagging when almost every component around them keeps changing. The "good enough" moniker is fine for plenty of scenarios in the NFL but you don't trade the farm to get up to #1 overall for "good enough." The evidence of this miraculous turnaround seems to still be lacking. If it happens, amazing. Until then, he is basically living on borrowed time and the team should very much consider a pivot in the offseason.

You know what I hate most about watching the Panthers now? That I really don't care that much about the outcome. Some of that is just age but I was in a casino sportsbook with a Jags fan this past Sunday and he is living and dying with all their plays. I remember that poo. Meanwhile, I am cracking jokes about the Panthers and either just laughing or shaking my head when fuged up stuff happened to us. He was bummed about their loss and I really didn't care about the good win we just got against a hated opponent. That's what really makes me pissed at what we have become. I watch out of habit and nothing else.

Yeah, this is a common human trait. Romanticing the past. For a chunk, childhood or early adult years seemed better because of many different reasons. Simpler, less worries, less life experience to even see the bad things, etc. People really don't recall how nuts this place has been at several times. The toxic Tinderbox invasions, the insanely racist anti-Cam people, the neverending Gettleman vs. Hurney threads, the trolling, the bullying, the super creeps, etc, etc.

That extends to the general internet, as well. People are far nastier to each other online and IRL. Different times have fueled some of this as well as just the overwhelming angst the Tepper era has wrought. I mean, has everyone forgotten the highs of the early post-JR days? "Oh it's all going to change! No more NFL Shield at midfield! No more mom and pop BS!" Whew....boy we all regret those statements, I am sure. The fanbase and our situation is a result of having the worst owner in the NFL. Ask Redskins fans about that. The Bryce poo is just another in a long line of blunders we have made in the past decade. I remember insane vitriol directed at Cam that was WAAAAAY more toxic than anything lobbed at Bryce.

Hence why teams invest so heavily in pass rushing assets. We need to continue to do the same until that problem is solved.

I know everyone loves BC but he is also a 29 year old backup. His value will always be being that versatile backup for us, not starting 17 games at whatever position. If we want to move from either of the guards, fine, but the draft is the place to take care of that.

Well we are one of the worst in that table so.....

I know everyone loves Hunt but Lewis is the better player.

I think we just need to get the roster in order. Bryce will basically take care of himself, IMO.

Yeah, I would rather not get embarrassed again. Love DJ but that ship sailed.

I am still sticking with the 4-7 win prediction. We are doing a great job of getting the younger guys reps. Getting a good idea of some of our future roster pieces. That's fantastic.

Ikey is doing well.....IDK if he is worth top LT money. TBD, I guess.

Bryce has looked on occasion like an NFL QB for a few snaps. Fields is about the same. Both are still better than Anthony Richardson.

This and find a good NFL DC in 2026.

I wouldn't imagine Moore's memories of this place are that fond.

I mean...sure but this is completely illogical for all parties involved.

Ass. Hell. No.

I mean, I don't know about the Bryce thing but Fields is The Golden Calf of Bristol-esque.

Wasn't a big fan of the pick but he has been better than Tremble and Sanders were at this point in their careers.

Well, Justin Fields is fuging terrible. I have literally been telling people this since his 2nd year in the NFL. I will never understand how people don't see it. They ride Tyrod and they actually could win a few games.

I mean....it is a road game. I wouldn't get too confident.

Butker has really crapped his pants the past 2-3 seasons.