kungfoodude

If we have two above average starters from the draft, it was a big win.

I am not ready to say that because we kind of perpetually stay in this cycle of looking for flashes, wishing and hoping. Do I THINK they look better than our normal class to date? Yes. Am I gonna count those chickens based on general Panthers luck? Hell no. I know that I want to keep seeing more of the young guys just to see what we have in general. That I definitely know.

I shudder to think of even a Brock Purdy sized investment into Bryce. That would cripple the franchise for years.

I will say that Brees and Young are similar athletes, in that they aren't particularly athletic.

Game to game it isn't that useful. It makes a little more sense over the 17 game schedule.

Yeah, the people simping over Darnold will see the truth, just like last year.

No, he will be drafted on Day 2 or 3.

The complete lack of effective talent evaluation is the real disease.

Beck is likely to be a Day 2 or 3 guy.

This is ultimately a sinking and floating turds argument.

69?

Well, he was an NFL QB.

People say Bryce was surrounded by NFL talent that made him look far better. That's completely fair. But so is Arch and he is hammered ass.

Arch Manning is the poor man's Bryce Young of Texass.

You and me both.

Yes, Sellers is generally a better athlete. But he had a ton of success early and then just never improved over time. That's the risk. Hell, ask the Colts. If anything AR is arguably worse than at UF.

Jordan is gonna have a talk with the defense.

Yeah, that's why I say KJ Jefferson. Similar profile and success earlyish. NFL Draft radar guy and then it drops off precipitously to him being a UDFA in this past draft.

I would hate to be getting the current product, is what I will say. Is he a dude or is he KJ Jefferson?

I don't think there is a set rule about when to start a young QB. Some are ready early, some need some time to learn and some just never get there. I keep beating this horse to death but I firmly am in the camp that it isn't how we are or aren't developing anyone, it's that we don't have any fuging clue how to pick guys that CAN develop in the first place.

Mac Jones is piling up evidence of both Shanahan making QB's look better than they actually are and also that Purdy contract was probably ultimately unnecessary.

More like the miming responses to questions when he was being asked about Gabriel starting. It's funny but it's also a little childish and immature. Just be bland and generic in those "gotcha" attempts. Don't make it more of a thing because they are actively trying to make it a thing. He has been a sideshow due to his actions(draft party, pre-draft team interviews, etc) but the media WANTS this to be a distraction so you have to be savvy enough to recognize this and avoid it. I was a huge Deion fan but Deion got to be Deion because of what he did on the field. Maybe chill on the public interactions like that until you make the name. Then be as much your true self as you want to be. Until that happens, it just opens you up for a ton of criticism. Rightly or wrongly, it's just part of the game.

I mean....Bryce has to be a 4.8 40 at best. His mobility is pretty limited FOR a guy of his size, TBH. Russell and Kyler were 4.5-4.6 guys. I also question his field reading abilities. I don't think you accidentally end up with a 60% career completion percentage with an extremely low YPA average. Bryce ain't completely the problem but he is far from NOT being the issue either.

I liked Sanders field reading abilities in general but his ceiling is fairly low and his shenanigans as a pro are, quite frankly, bizarre. I don't think he is doing himself any favors by being a distraction while also being buried on the depth chart. Don't get me wrong, the media would attempt to make him a distraction regardless but it's not smart to feed into it when you aren't having a role at all. This can also be said of XL, BTW. We are no stranger to this. It's a lot easier to excuse Cam dressing like a deleted scene Harry Potter character at press conferences when he is looking like a man among boys on the football field.

I don't think with a roster this bad we should be spamming picks at subpar QB's for development purposes. When the roster is a little more fleshed out, I would fully support that. Also, with our persistent evaluation problems, I can only imagine who we would have likely overdrafted in the past few years.