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Yep. And that so frequently happens at the RB position. It is a high mileage and short career span position. Guys like Peterson and Gore are extreme outliers.

I think Campen will help but he isn't gonna mold Daley or Erving or Elflein or Miller or whatever bum off the street into great players. Those coaches matter but not as much as fans think. They have a limited amount of time to work with these guys, so being a good player or great player is largely gonna be on the players themselves. They have to put in the work and do what is necessary to get better on THEIR time. Reference all the Horn videos of him constantly training or him going to train with other elite DB's. Reference Peyton Manning working with David Cutcliffe in the offseason. Reference the videos of guys like Larry Fitzgerald or OBJ's offseason training work. That is what makes great players, that drive to be the best. Coaches aren't going to mold JAGS in to Pro Bowlers.

He is a great pass receiving RB....as a RB. If you try to make him a utility player then he immediately becomes less of a threat to a defense. You take away his most valuable tool, which is that he is a great runner.

Unless we get a pretty decent haul in draft capital, there isn't a great reason to get rid of him in 2022. He is the best offensive weapon at RB in the NFL if he can stay healthy. So see if he stays healthy and if he can't, just cut your losses and take the lesson about signing RB's to massive deals. We did something stupid and we paid the price. If not, and he is healthy for a whole year, then you once again have a core member of the franchise.

Yeah, he was actually a Pro Bowler his rookie year, although it was as an injury replacement.

BC is best suited to being a backup OT, IMO. I don't think he is a starting caliber player at all. As a third rounder, that's fine. We could have done a lot better than him but that was our infatuation with the idea of "versatility" without that actually being the case. Had he been very versatile in college, I would have agreed with that assessment, given that he is an above average athlete. Ideally, I am just wrong and he is at least an average LT or can eventually play other positions at an average or better level. I would just personally bet against either of those scenarios happening.

Yeah, that's what they are all angling for. Trying to get a cushy job at a real sports media outlet.

Yeah, that is a little bit of a head scratcher. Well, even if he does prove to be a failure, the price was cheap so I don't hate the move either way.

Yeah, BC is not in the same class as guys like Neal, Ekwonu or Cross. Not to mention, Neal or Ekwonu could be top 10 OG's as their floor versus a guy like BC who literally is unlikely to be able to play at an NFL level at any other position than OT.

Positional value is very high for an elite pass rusher so, I don't agree with you there. Safety is different. I like Hamilton but it makes zero sense for us to take a player like at 6 that with the needs we have.

I don't think many teams would part with a 1st for him. Not many want a RB salary at $8-12 mil for that length of time(4 years). Then you have even fewer that value RB's at a 1st round grade. Early second is mostly dumpster fire teams, so I am not sure how many of them would need a RB or want a RB-centric offense. I don't think we are actively shopping him, though. I think we are just willing to listen to offers.

She seems to be pretty well connected but she doesn't filter much. She is less a traditional sports journalist but more akin to the modern era social media "reporters" that clamor to be the first to report anything(despite being inaccurate often). That's why social media "reporting" sucks so badly. Being first means more credibility and more clicks. People don't care if the info is wrong. First is the most important. Ian Rappoport is really the same way, TBH.

His value is already minimal in a trade scenario and the cap hit isn't worth any draft capital we gained(likely a 2nd rounder, at best). If he gets injured again next season and misses significant time, then I would say trade him for whatever you can get(5th, 6th, etc).

Hamilton? After just investing in another safety? So we want an all safety defense?

Yeah, I think Rhule can battle through a tough race with Atlanta to finish last in the NFC South. He has shown me he is capable.

She gets caught in the rush to be first rather than trying to be right. Product of modern reporting.

I have seen more than one mock that has one of the top two pass rushers dropping to us. All it takes is for someone in the top 5 to throw a curveball(Lions taking a QB, for instance) and the board may shift enough for that to happen.

Ooof. Vet the source first. Reporting 101.

Eh. Try before you buy. I am not against it. Can always sign a bigger co tract if he plays really well here.

Unless they have zero interest in Fisher, it would hard for her to be wrong. Their interest may be passing or serious. We don't know.

Apparently.

How did passing on Slater work out again?

Like I said, I can't make you see it if you don't already.

He would be a massive upgrade over our current options but if we break the bank on a declining player, that's not smart.

I mean....I can't make you see it.