kungfoodude

I don't think we would get that for the 6th pick.

If they honestly made that decision based on the opinion of a recently hired coach and not the two years of working with him, I mean......this smacks of "Sam Darnold kinda looks like Matt Stafford."

Not realistic, IMO but with those guys to choose from, in a heartbeat. Choose two of the three OL and immediately make the OL much better.

Willis has a lot more upside than Howell and actually some elite attributes. But...man is the bad stuff bad with him. His bad games are REALLY bad.

All of this sounded good until the "even if it's a reach." My instant thought was, "fug. We are gonna pass up on a surefire LT to get a versatile swing OL that was projected as a 2nd round pick."

His hands make your dick look bigger. There is that.

I kind of like the idea of hiring Byron Leftwich. Weakens our divisional at the same time as(hopefully) bolstering us. I think he could put together a good staff, too.

Don't you dare disparage future Circle of Honor greats like Bersin and Clay.

And a source said Pat Eflein is likely to start at center again next season with Matt Paradis’ inevitable departure, barring a free agent signing or injury.

I was one of the few that was pretty down on the 2021 draft. I felt like we passed up on good, starting quality players to get project guys. It would be nice to be wrong but considering the Rhule talent evaluation level, I don't think I will be.

Fast forward 2 years and I bet this is what we will be saying about the 2021 draft.

Lol. WTF are you talking about? This is a level of delusion that would make 4Corners blush.

Well, we are the new Bengals/Browns, most likely. At least our incompetence will provide a few years of laughing at least. I will still enjoy the NFL, just not the Panthers part of it.

Once again, you have zero clue what you are talking about but strong opinions on the things you don't have any clue you are talking about. How about this, have you watched a single snap of Penning at all?

I don't think pining after a guy that doesn't want to be here accomplishes much anymore. Watson is a fantasy. He may never play again, he may have to sit out for a long time, and he may just not want to come here. And that is all ignoring the likely price to obtain him. We may as well let that one go.

If he drops and one of the top 3 LT's is on the board, that is when we have some serious choices to make.

LOL. Where you played matters way less than your abilities. By that logic, Howell is undraftable because UNC has never had a successful QB. Non-P5 OL are less common in the first round(true for all positions) but that's because there is a big talent disparity in the average P5 player and the average non-P5. As a group that makes sense, but you don't grade prospects as a group. Is Patrick Mahomes a bad QB? Because prior to him Texas Tech QB's were regarded as gimmick guys that piled up stats in a one read offense. However he is/was otherworldly talented. There are plenty of small school players in the HOF, including our recently inducted Sam Mills. Would I take Penning at 6? Probably not. Would I be upset if we had him on on our roster. Absolutely not.

Agreed. Cross has way more upside.

So you didn't watch anything, don't know anything but have strong opinions against it? This fits.

He is sort of a less athletic Ekwonu, right? Same nastiness and physical play. I am not anti-Penning. Might be kind of high at 6 but I wouldn't be upset. Now if we pick him over Neal, Ekwonu or Cross.....eh....not sure I would be pumped about that.

Having the choice of Ekwonu or Cross at 6 would be amazing.

Little did we know at the time how accurate this moment was going to be for his career.