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The problem is that Fitterer ultimately answers to Rhule, unless something has changed. It may have but remember that was part of this original set up. Rhule has complete control.

Yeah, heavy grain of salt until the bullets are real. Not bad though.

I am gonna be at a beer festival in WI. I always get pumped for preseason, then watch about a quarter and remember it isn't real football.

Consider that was probably Browns gold. Now consider what our franchise is looking like recently.

Most likely true. Although we are certainly a troubled franchise, our playoff berths are typically deep runs.

This is easy. Huddle hot takes and overreactions.

Great stuff. Listened to it as I was driving through OH.

@TheSpecialJuan???

Yeah, why would we shop our Week 1 starter?

I think the Mayfield question is more complex than even performance. It will depend on Tepper's level of micromanagement and what the direction of the current/next coaching staff is. If Tepper is/was a Baker guy, I think Baker will be here. If the next coach is a Baker guy, he will be here. But if Tepper isn't a Baker guy and Rhule/new coach aren't Baker guys, he is gonna be gone. It would probably take an All-Pro performance in 2022 for the latter opinions to change.

Huge news.

I certainly haven't seen anything credible showing him "highly ranked" nor thought of in "NFL circles." If anything, he's an "incomplete" because he isn't a real GM. We have no idea what he is truly responsible for and what Matt Rhule is responsible for. I hope it's been a healthy dose of Rhule on the many bad moves we've seen.

Yeah, hence why I am wary of proclaiming Fitterer some sort of genius. He isn't a real GM and our moves have been equally good and bad. I hope to see him in a traditional GM role with our next coach. I think that will let us know if he is the guy or not.

The price was absurd. Not a smart move by Fitterer/Rhule.

Well, do remember that each Conference got an extra playoff spot now, it is actually a little easier to back into the playoffs.

It's all academic until we start playing games. I don't believe it's impossible to have a terrible season, especially had we been facing the spector of seeing Darnold for most of the year(you have to assume eventually Corral would get a shot in that scenario). My argument for the low win total projection is that our season's house of cards largely revolves around a bunch of "if's" panning out. If our OL improves, if our QB play improves, if CMC stays healthy, if our DL improves, if our LB's improve, if our DB's improve, if our OC works out, etc, etc, etc. I just don't see enough of those "if's" turning out our way in one offseason for us to make that next step up as a team. We will see. I am perfectly happy to be wrong and watch winning football again. I just don't view that as terribly likely.

Oh I am not saying Baker can't elevate us as a team but there is only so far a QB cam elevate a team with bad coaching and/or poor personnel. That's my prediction for Baker. I think with Baker we are a 5-7 win team. Without Baker probably a 2-4 win team.

Yeah but Baker playing at a high level may not lead to winning. Do you remember recent Superb Owl champion Matt Stafford's entire career with the Lions? Do you remember Matt Ryan's time with Atlanta? Deshaun Watson with Houston? You can be a really good or even elite QB and not be able to overcome shitty coaching or just a poo situation. Hell, look at our own Cam Newton.

This I could see, although the 49ers may be reticent to trade him inside the division without a haul in return.

I would say possible but unlikely. I suspect we are going to finally see Rhule prove himself as the NFL's worst head coach. TBH, anything less than a winning record will cement that. Especially with all the hype about our offseason.

I predict Jordan, Mays and Erving from that final grouping.

This is how you end up being mentally ill. Being on social media enough that you post about DM's people send you with screenshots of things people say about you in some random internet forum. That's a tough life, living second to second staring at a cell phone screen.

It was an intelligence test. You both failed.