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Oh I am definitely not forgetting that era. Re-watch that. It wasn't very good QB play.

Well he is also an outlier in that he didn't pop until later. Usually those 3rd to 5th rounder RB's that end up starting caliber IMMEDIATELY pop. He took real time to completely develop and he did the work to do so. Oh I agree. We can't keep whiffing in the top two rounds. It's not going to work out long term like that. Chuba it really depends on the money and Brooks. If Brooks immediately looks like a guy, it doesn't make a lot of sense to be paying Chuba too.

I really disliked the draft too but it just is what it is. Hopefully we get a couple of hits and then it won't matter about the misses. Look at a guy like Hubbard, for instance. He was skewered by this board as being "Rhule's wifes pick" and was a disaster as a rookie and second year player. But, he's now a competent starting caliber RB with much improved hands. He has been a hell of a pick in hindsight. So maybe Wallace or Sanders end up being those players in 2-3 seasons.

That is what years of roster mismanagement will bring. It will take at least two offseasons to probably dig completely out of that hole. That's assuming we don't goof this up and start digging downward. Morgan is under the spotlight for the next two offseasons. He has a TON of work to do. I hope he is the guy. I would love to have a former player lead the way to revitalizing us.

Yep. Get some guys like Johnson and Dalton bought in for the next couple of seasons. Come back, get paid and help us build something. Hell, if Johnson leaves, go find another guy(or two) similar. Give him the opportunity to cook and maybe get paid in the offseason. Eventually we will hopefully build ourselves to the point where we keep some of these upper tier rentals. Once we get ourselves out of the "must overpay to keep people" range, we might string together some impactful free agent offseasons. Hell we already did with just Johnson and the OL.

- There is no logic or reason behind making "win now trades." We aren't a good team. This is how we ended up here. Making several seasons of "OH poo WE HAVE TO GET BETTER" trades and nuking our future. - We don't have any elite, instant impact rookies. Guys like XL, Brooks, Wallace, Sanders, etc.....these are project players. So just chill on the unrealistic expectations. What we want to see is that from Game 1 to Game 17 they show progress, development and learning. That's what success for those guys looks like. Expect highs and expect lows. It's fine. - JAG's are elite players either. There is no magic bullet to some of these roster holes(specifically at Edge). Don't get crazy and assume that Barno or Wonnum or whatever PS player are suddenly going to come in and be Hassan Reddick. You might see some flashes and that's great. That is why they are here, to flash occasionally. Not to be the second coming of Julius Peppers. - We are going to lose a lot of games. That's just the life of a team near the bottom of the league in overall talent. - Most importantly: ENJOY THE RETURN OF WATCHABLE FOOTBALL. Don't get insane/delusional/manic with expectations of divisional titles, playoff berths, etc. It isn't going to happen in 2024. That doesn’t mean we can't enjoy this coaching staff and the competence they bring. It doesn't mean we can't enjoy being competitive in many more games that we have been recently. It doesn't mean that we can't enjoy the best OL we have had in many, many years. It doesn't mean we can't enjoy the first competent QB play we have seen since Cam got his shoulder nuked. Just enjoy the ride. Enjoy not dreading watching a thumping or horrific football every Sunday. Even if we have to significantly Tepper our expectations, there is a small light at the end of this tunnel. It's that we finally look like a relevant football team for one day a week. It might not be much, but it's a damn sight better than just about anything else we have seen in the Tepper era.

In fairness to Sanders, it's highly unlikely he ever becomes as good as Andrews is now. Regardless, TE isn't even in the top 8 problems on our roster.

What is with all the lightspeed retarded trade threads? Do some of you guys literally hate our team or are currently working as David Tepper assistants???? You guys realize this is the sort of ignorant poo that got us where we are now, right?

It's also a completely unnecessary addition. Adding him probably changes the outcome of zero games this season. We don't need a pass rusher, we need pass rushers. We literally don't have a single non-replacement level pass rusher on the entire roster. That isn't a mid-season trade fix, that's a 2-3(or more) offseasons of intelligent free agent signings and draft picks fix. Elite and competent pass rushers don't grow on trees.

Barno is what he had always been, a special teams player with his ceiling basically as a part time backup Edge. There is no superstar waiting to break out. Not that there is anything wrong with that. He is who he was supposed to be as a 6th round draft pick.

Competitive we can be but this is a very bad roster and we haven't been playing high caliber opponents the past two weeks. Make no mistake, we are going to see some humbling losses several times this season still. There is zero reason to be making any "win now" moves. That's how we ended up with the worst roster in franchise history.

This is one of the strangest lists I have ever seen.

Yeah, I have no desire to replace him until he starts showing signs of physical decline. Let him help develop our offensive players and identify who our future core will be there.

I mean, we are not even in the same zip code as a playoffs discussion. We need significant roster upgrades at multiple positions for that. That's not even taking into account that we have multiple PS players getting significant time.

Yeah, when they said heel I immediately though Achilles. If so, I think he hangs it up. Very sad ending, if so.

I called that one. Daniels was my dude.

Diggs is expensive, declining and on the wrong side of 30. Getting rid of him was the correct decision. But they didn't do an adequate job of adding additional WR help. Coleman is not a dude. That should have been obvious to anyone. Shakir has been a nice surprise.

No trades for players, thanks. Keep the draft picks. Trading players to get draft picks, that is a different story.

Well currently the QB is better than the WR's. That will need to be fixed eventually.

For us, yes. He is definitely the best QB we have had since Cam's shoulder got destroyed. By a wide margin. However, he is also 37 and in the twilight of his career. This has an expiration date and it's likely sooner rather than later. If we can get through next season(assuming he resigns) then we are in good shape.

I am so glad we didn't draft Coleman.

His faults are that he leans gunslinger, so he will take gambles and turn the ball over. Don't forget he almost threw a DTD inside our 10 yard line in the 2nd half. That's the downside.

Damn Lamar. No reason to take that whallop.

Unfortunately, he has a rich history of being a playoff choke artist. Until he gets that monkey off his back, his legacy is going to have a significant black eye. It's a shame. It's rather inexplicable.

Yeah, the biggest hurdle is really going to be the FO finally earning our trust. If that happens, I think the ascent out of this abyss can be started in earnest.