kungfoodude

You do realize that you have to win games to become a "winner" right? That's literally how that happens. So wishing for us to continue to lose just makes more losing culture.

Winning is how you build a winning culture. It is quite literally the only way to build a winning culture. There is no way to spin winning games as a net negative this season. It's not a draft where you are likely to net an elite QB and the pool is limited with elite talent. If you end up with a top 10 pick(most likely we will) then just get an above average starter that is worth signing to a second contract. BPA and improve the roster. You can do all that while winning games as a cellar dweller.

Would you say that he's been the.....Jewell of that 4th round?

Well, I mean, I hate to point to a timeline but you might want to look at when Josh Rosen and JaMarcus Russell were drafted.

Yeah, minus the relative consensus about this guy being a first round talent for quite some time now. But, by all means, keep digging that hole deeper.

I just don't think he loves football.

I mean if we are going 1st round busts, don't forget about Anthony Richardson. Might be the biggest first round QB bust since Rosen.

You might want to go re-read your original post.

Fantastic route runner too.

Holy Cross. The instances of small school(non-P5) top 15 picks are actually not rare. First round instances are less rare. You not knowing about prospects really isn't the fault of anyone but yourself. It's odd to poo on prognosticators for being actually informed when you very clearly have zero clue about college football.

poo, exactly who is sold on Bryce that isn't named David Tepper??

He is not a natural ball catcher in the slightest. Not sure he will ever be, TBH.

Yeah, people kept singing BC's praises but that was by far the worst game he played all year. He was getting beat like a snare drum.

Where did Coker come from?

The best CB in the last draft was from Toledo(saw him play live in the MAC championship game). It really doesn't make any sense to assume the caliber of player based on school.

There is no real risk of the Panthers turning this around. What we should hope to see is the team be competitive in most of the remaining games and the further development of our younger players(Coker, Sanders, Chuba, XL, Wallace, Ikey, Horn, etc). These are guys that we need to become a core that can be built around. And maybe some veterans like Wonnum show they can be a part of the future here.

That kid has been on the NFL radar for more than a year. He is a serious prospect. If not for the injury, he might have been the #1 overall CB off the board.

Absolutely. It will hamper some of our players careers and cause talent to avoid us at various times.

People made way too much of Baker not being a good QB. He was a good QB in Cleveland for a while and in difficult conditions. He was never NOT going to be a starting caliber NFL QB. I am not surprised by how he is doing there because he has shown he can do this before. Panthers fans only see our disaster and assume it's the player that is at fault.

Eh....ride him until the wheels fall off. We need to focus on developing our other young players. Bryce's development is significantly lower on the priority list since he has conclusively proved he is not a starting NFL QB.

He isn't Brock Purdy in that example, he is Trey Lance.

Stroud is the second most sacked in the NFL so far. They are most likely not a serious contender for that reason. The last time you saw something like that was the Burrow run but the Texans and Stroud are not nearly as good as that Cincy offense.

Not true at all. Watching Rodgers get dunked on is pretty great.

Sam Darnold now 17 TD's and 13 TO's. But he has "turned the corner." Okay.

It's funny to see the Saints immediately playing better without Dennis Allen.