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His story about Mahomes is an eye opener too.

The issue is that it's hard to help the guys in the middle. Elflein is just bad. Corbett appeared to be shaky, best. BC has obvious limitations in terms of power but I think he can still be effective. If Bozeman isn't an upgrade over Elflein, that is really bad. I think Mays might even be an upgrade over Corbett but that won't happen until very late in the season with Rhule being the way he is.

I'll do it for $3 mil and get fired more quickly so we could have already moved on. Plus I could all but guarantee a #1 overall pick.

Yo he is the coach of the Giants, bruh.

2021 offseason. Those FA moves and draft were so sketchy that I questioned everything. That man sat in front of the entire press corps and compared Sam Darnold to Matt Stafford. I knew it was over then.

None. This is the bed they made, time to lie in it and prove why they made the correct choices.

He is basically Tyrod Taylor so there is only so much concern to have. Also, some of his throws he was "beating" our DB's on were hard to get too upset about. He did have a few that were great catches by the WR and well placed by him. IMO the secondary was more than good enough to win. A little sloppy but overall pretty good.

I mean.....some mediocrity would actually be kind of nice at the moment.

Oh Snow ain't going anywhere until Rhule is gone. I can promise you that.

I did say that I was very worried about our OL and DL. Those worries appear to have been very valid.

Remember when we all didn't want Mike McCarthy? Boy those were the days.

Just to update, Rhule's career record has now dipped to 0.294

4-9 Interim for the last 4.

I don't think it is solely players. I believe it is also scheme that aids in our poor run defense.

Yeah, we supposedly have an elite running back and OL that has a strength in run blocking. Why not just pound them straight out of the gate and set the tone? But, keep in mind that everyone keeps falling for this "Rhule wants to run the ball" poo but that isn't who Brady or McAdoo are.

The difference is that the two in the thread title have a combined 4 games played in the NFL. Brown is a lot less excusable. There are ample reasons to think that Horn can clean up his tendency to hold and Icky can recover from getting beat like a snare drum by the best DE in the NFL. There isn't a lot of reason to think that Brown is suddenly going to become an elite(top 10) DT. That's a big problem.

I do feel like this was just inevitable(him being fired after/during this season). I found it very odd when anyone argued that point.

Yeah, but I also don't think this is a roster that was very well set up to win. Add the worst HC in the NFL, a dash of bottom third coaching staff and that isn't much of a recipe for success. I can't put a lot of this game on Baker, although he didn't play particularly well.

Plus at least two of those snaps were DEFINITELY on Elflein. I think it is pretty clear how bad Elflein is. I really cannot fathom how he was still on the roster.

I don't think we will be nearly as unwatchable as last season even if we are not successful. Unless Baker gets injured. He wasn't great but it's clear that he adds an element of being able to suddenly come back that we don't usually have. That's not nothing.

Yeah, I mean that is the million dollar question. I guess at the bare minimum we might actually be interesting to watch keep sucking versus insanely frustrating to watch suck like last year. IDK. What a fuging weird game. So much bad sprinkled with some big flashes of good.

I am trying to be mad about this but we did storm back in a way that we don't normally ever do in the post-Cam era. I will put it this way, consider how dogshit we looked all game and still almost won it. So, I guess the question is are we going to still continue to be dogshit all season or are we gonna dial it in? If we lessen the mistakes and plug some obvious holes, we could actually be mediocre.

You know....normally I would say that taking a kicker in the 4th is pretty dumb.....however.....

I honestly have no idea why anyone thought this OL was going to be good. It was not set up for success.