kungfoodude

Yeah. I don't think Dalton is Flacco. But, most didn't think Flacco was Flacco. I am fine with rolling with Dalton this year but you can't bank your future on a late 30's QB. That is a bridge guy at the absolute best. And it's a short ass bridge, at that.

This. Exactly what I was getting at.

Not sure that would be the case if he was there.

Some of these LLM's are useful but not in the ways that 99% of the people use them.

If we move on from Bryce, 100% down for a competition next year. Dalton(if he is still around), FA QB or rookie or some combination of all. Just something else.

100% agree. If you don't think he is the guy, trade him before the 5th option is taken in the offseason. Pull the band-aid off and move on. Doesn't matter if the answer is Dalton, free agent QB, draft QB or some combination. Be decisive about making a move.

If you base your entire evaluation on outliers, that is how you end up with Bryce Young.

Leave a potential playoff contender for us?? You trying to offer him an 8 year, $70 mil AAV deal???

Honestly, he does see the field better and is more decisive with the ball than Bryce. But, Shanahan's offense makes QB's look very good so he wouldn't look anything like that here, I suspect.

Rage quitting over Bryce Young is the funniest thing I have seen here since that diehard Jets fan that came over with Sam Darnold rage quit this place.

There have been real, actual statistical analysis of these sort of things. ChatGPT spit out a dimestore version of those. People, stop relying on current AI for information. It's atrociously bad.

It has been funny to watch the transformation in Indy when they realized AR was not going to be the guy and got a "distressed property" QB. If there is an offseason to make such a move, it's this offseason.

A large chunk of the Huddle apparently is so starved for "deep passes" that they want to get blown out week in and week out as we lead the NFL in DTD's.

These have to be trolls. There is only maybe two guys on the list/extended list that are much more than lateral moves. It's downgrades everywhere. I am starting to be convinced that Bryce has broken some Huddlers brains so thoroughly that they actually have no idea what a good QB is anymore.

After the playoffs, probably not. McCarthy in a small sample size has been Bryce-esque in his career start. Just REAL bad.

I wouldn't. I also don't consider 3rd string caliber QB's as adequate replacements.

That's this issue with that list. Those were all downgrades.

I am gonna be honest with you, Willis is several years away from being a potentially viable NFL below average starter.

I mean....I think we are getting ahead of ourselves a bit there but Inhave been very pleased with the early returns. Cautiously optimistic.

Cheap would have to be the thing. If you are talking a 1 year, $2-3 mil price tag sure.

Yeah but Jones was a solid starter prior to Daboll and Baker was always a good QB. Geno is the outlier and Sam is gonna have to do this another year or so for me to believe. I understand people like those stories but they are memorable because they are rare. Most of the guys you listed, if not all, will probably be out of the NFL in 4 years. I am not saying definitely no, especially if Dalton retired or left for whatever reason but you named four very clear downgrades at QB.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/46683459/2025-nfl-offseason-tiers-32-teams-best-worst-signings-trades-draft-barnwell Slightly above expectations Highlights: Trading WR Adam Thielen, signing RB Rico Dowdle (one year, $2.8 million), drafting fifth-round TE Mitchell Evans Disappointments: Re-signing CB Mike Jackson (two years, $10.5 million) The Panthers chose the right time to move on from Thielen, who had been productive in Carolina before being dealt to Minnesota just before the season. He has been lost in the shuffle there. While the Panthers won't see the fourth-round pick that forms the bulk of the return for Thielen until 2027, getting out from what was owed to a player who has 47 receiving yards in Minnesota is an easy victory. Dowdle has been a revelation since moving into the starting lineup after Chuba Hubbard's injury, becoming one of a handful of players in NFL history to produce consecutive 200-yard scrimmage games. The former Cowboys back was averaging 3 yards per carry before the opportunity, so I'm not sure I would count on him playing like Jim Brown the rest of the way in a rotational role alongside Hubbard. But it's hard to argue that Carolina hasn't already gotten its $2.8 million worth out of the 27-year-old back. Most of Carolina's biggest moves are either tracking to be right around expectation (drafting wide receiver Tetairoa McMillan) or have been impacted by unexpected injuries (signing defensive tackle Tershawn Wharton). Jackson was a pleasant surprise as a starter in 2024, and he hasn't been terrible this season, but most of the big plays against Carolina have come on throws against the former Seahawks cornerback. Overall, though, this has been a very reasonable offseason for the Panthers

I am not saying what I would or wouldn't want us to do because it isn't draft time. My general rule is that if a draft has very strong and deep classes of a position, you target those. BPA, after all. So if those "need" positions fall into that, fine. But we often as an organization ignore these things and reach in drafts that have weak classes at specific positions. Hence why I don't agree with your philosophy for the most part. It's easy to understand the "need" part. But needs shouldn't lead to rash decisions and poor drafting. The past decade has been a textbook example of that here in Carolina. Ignoring BPA and reaching for need more than vice versa. With hefty amounts of "smartest guy in the room" syndrome, which has been a massive accelerant to the dumpster fire. We just aren't going to agree on draft strategy. We don't view team building the same way.

I get that there isn't much to talk about but this is a hell of a thread to have reached 8 pages over literally nothing. Highly likely that it was unintentional to stomp on him that way. Even if it was somehow intentional.....okay?

This is basically me. I do think he has created quite a few of the problems the offense struggles with, outside of the bad QB situation.