kungfoodude

So you guys are pining over Hendon Hooker and fuging Mike White??? That's insane. Literally. All of us want better and hope that happens but asking to watch 3 incomplete 40+ yard passes a game while getting blasted by 20+ points is not the sort of panacea I think any reasonable fan wants to witness. I'd rather limp along with that anchor in Bryce Young than watch the rebirth of the Wienkie/Clausen eras, thanks. At least until something actually, REALLY better comes along. Jesus Christ. Some of you guys might need to take a break from the NFL for a while if this is the type of poo in your heads.

Yeah, so could Matt Corral and Will Grier. JaMarcus Russell too. How is that working out for them? I am far from a Bryce fan but the obsession over these long bombs is literally completely absurd.

I mean, White is certainly capable as losing a game as badly as Plummer, no doubt. Same with Hooker.

I don't think it's down. We are largely just laughing, rightfully so, at anyone thinking this is more than a PS move or emergency backup.

I also think Justin Fields sucks. A lot. But if he was my employee there is not chance I am trashing him in front of the media for just not being good. I am gonna be lighting up the MFer who decided that was a good personnel decision. IN PRIVATE.

Good decisions, IMO.

He is having a good year. On pace for his second double digit sack season of his now 7 year career. This is the peak of his career so he SHOULD be producing at his contract level. Not upset that we aren't tied to an almost $30 mil contract. TBH, Horn and Brown have been better core players.

I mean....that would be nice.

IDK if they will get fired but it would be a bad look. I do think Tepper will give DC until mid-next year to get results acceptable to him, whatever the fug that might be.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/46673558/jets-owner-defends-coach-glenn-blames-winless-start-qb-fields Whew. Tepper does have some competition for worst owner.

You are talking about a tanking scenario. That's not really what I would think we would want to end the year on with the morale actually being pretty good for the first time in a while, so it seems. Hooker will definitely assure that no more close games or wins happen.

Ewers is basically a long term project and an older guy at that. He doesn't really help us much in the next couple of seasons at the bare minimum, so I don't see how he fits anything that we need nor justifies a spot on the 53 man roster.

I would disagree about how many "good" QB's are in this draft. Not really one I would say that is worth investing draft capital on a QB in the first three rounds. We will see closer to the draft.

I don't think I would expect a lot more stretching the field. Just quicker decision making.

Well CMC was rarely the reason we were winning or losing games. Hence why you don't generally pay a RB that kind of coin. Not to mention he was insanely injury prone. He still is. It was just a poor investment we rightfully pivoted from. And then immediately squandered all the resources we received in return and made the team worse. You know, Tepper Panthers style!

That is where I do sometimes get annoyed with the tanking crowd at the end of every year. Draft position can help a lot, it definitely can. But good evaluation will overwhelmingly outshine draft positioning every single fuging time. It's why I rage against the "development" guys so much. I agree we don't develop players well, I get it. But that problem PALES in comparison to the evaluation issues we have.

It's funny how quickly people forget the "I wish we drafted like *insert successful NFL team*" comments during the season when the offseason hits. Then it's fire everyone, cut everyone, draft this RAS God, etc, etc. Look at how common it is for ALL those teams we talked about to be taking top players at their positions consistently throughout most drafts. BPA, high value guys. Constantly. They aren't reaching or trading up for the XL's, DJ Johnson's or the like. They make more smart decisions than dumb ones. It's that fuging simple.

Maybe. That's not a Bills team that has been playing very elite, however. If it is close or we win, I am not exactly gonna chalk that up to us being a contender.

Yeah and I think that directly relates to his drop in completion percentage. That On target percentage would also have almost equaled the best season in Pat Mahomes career so I do think that was likely to come back to Earth. I think he is definitely better than the 64% he is at now but also not an 80% guy either. More like a career 70-75% guy.

If you look at almost all Daniels stats, they are as good or better than last year minus perhaps Completion Percentage. I don't think Daniels himself is having very much less individual success than the Redskins are reverting to the mean. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/46003861/nfl-teams-likely-decline-lose-more-games-2025-season-predictions-vikings-chiefs-commanders-lions-colts#wsh Barnwell wrote about them in the preseason as a team that had an inordinate amount of luck or success in one score games that wasn't very likely to be repeated.

I would heavily push back on the notion of Tomlin and Cowher inheriting "collapsed teams." From 1980 to 1991(prior to Cowher and after their Super Bowl victories) the Steelers experienced just 4 sub .500 seasons. In fact the winning percentage for those years was 0.505. At most that was relatively mediocre, something fairly akin to the pre-Tepper Panthers. From Cowher through Tomlin(1992 to Present) it has been the NFL's best franchise. 22 playoff appearances, 4 Super Bowl Appearances, 2 Titles, 15 times winning the division. In fact they have only experienced 3 sub .500 records in that 34 season span. That isn't ever a scenario where rebuilding happens. It's constant and consistent retooling so that your franchise floor is always high. It's smart business decisions, exceptional drafting and quality personnel moves that create a situation where that floor STAYS high. It was precisely BECAUSE we opted to go through a complete teardown and "rebuild" without any of that competence being in the organization at all that led us to where we are currently. A situation that will more than likely continue for well over a decade longer. Long term successful franchises do not "rebuild." They are in a constant state of competent flux that sustains them through some leaner periods without ripping the foundation completely out that led to that success in the first place.

Well, I think that's basically a Bryce thing. Dalton is not gonna be a significant media threat to him and is also a very capable backup. So does bringing in a Daniel Jones make a lot of sense if you are just gonna hear the chants for him every time Bryce struggles? IMO, it has been they are sold on Bryce and don't want a threat to his development. Dalton isn't a threat.

Bryce and CJ have similar Time to Throw stats(2.81 vs. 2.73). From PFR: Bryce's Pressure Percentage this season has been 21.9% with a 21.4% Blitz% and a 2.5 Sec Pocket Time. CJ's Pressure Percentage this season has been 14.3% with a 20.7% Blitz% and a 1.8 Sec Pocket Time. So it seems like Bryce is getting as much pressure but the pressure it getting to CJ more. CJ has a 7.21% Sack Percentage to 4.68% Sack Percentage.

IIRC, win rates are basically sustaining your block for 2.5 seconds. The theory behind that being that is a reasonable amount of time to not get your ass whipped and let the QB throw the ball. It's a decent general idea of how solid guys are at stoning their competiton on an average basis. It's limited in some ways.