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That's why I wouldn't expect them to make the move. It's, at best, lateral. It probably gets a little more difficult if you consider salary situations. Yeah, I mean I would think that is the determination at the moment. If you want to take Tyrod vs. Bryce outside of that scenario, I think it might still be a coin flip. I personally would rather have Tyrod but it is the Jets.

I don't think the Raiders actually would. Geno has been bad but we have seen how terrible Bryce is with bad pressure issues. Bryce would actually be a downgrade in terms of ball security there. It's possible, though.

No and Davis was an outlier. Most players don't recover from two ACL injuries. For it to happen before his career even gets off the ground is even worse. I do feel bad for the kid, it's a terrible thing to have a potentially promising career go this way.

He's also 26 so he has more general game experience than a lot of rookies.

Tyrod is currently injured, though.

I hope we don't rush him back, even in the middle of a playoff push. Not worth losing him for next season too.

College football has zero ability to work together, they are too busy trying actively to rip each others throats out and destroy each others programs. They even do it inside their own conferences, especially the biggest conferences. It's why they are ultimately doomed.

I couldn't care less if they do. There are entirely too many in the first place.

Possibles(although not definites): Jets Browns Colts(injury related only) Vikings Saints or Falcons is an arguable take but I am very doubtful they would swap their challenging QB situations for ours.

I think that is another problem with Bryce, he has to gain his confidence every game, seemingly.

Eh....this isn't the first time this has happened. The Big 12 fined two teams for doing this, which is more understandable because they share that money in the conference. There is really no harm to ND doing this other than some potential loss in revenue from a TV partner like ESPN. None of us should care about that at all.

Sunday Night is a national broadcast.

In a bowl game? That would basically eliminate any one year turnaround teams. Not very fair. Notre Dame isn't hurting anyone but themselves. There should be no outrage over that.

I don't think the usage of Horn is bad, it's basically taking one of your top 2-3 YAC guys and putting him in a position to make people miss. Is it the best for his overall WR reps? No but it's a crowded WR room for not very many good or efficient targets being delivered. If we had a higher efficiency, higher volume passing offense then Renfrow would have a lot more uses. He could be that David Moore role from last year of finding open areas while the defense is keying in on the better WR's. But, we are also kidding ourselves if we think prime Renfrow is ever coming back. He is a shell of his former self and its unlikely he will ever return to that form.

It has always been a drastically inferior product to professional football because the backbone of it is intended to be an unfair, fixed system. Always has been but it has gotten worse in the Super TV contract era. Even though the product should(and has) gotten better with the NIL and free agency, they go and ruin it again with the profiteering that destroys entire conferences. I think when the inevitable happens of a smaller super conference(or super conferences) group that basically plays a different level of sport, that should be the thing that likely sets it on the NASCAR course of steep decline.

Hey, at this point, just happy to be here. I do want to rob Tampa and end their streak, though. That would be perfect.

Renfrow is only getting targeted with catches he is just simply unable to make. He is getting the AT balls. He is not a contested catch WR. Horn is more valuable in our offense because he adds an element that doesn't really exist with our other WR's. He is a speedy, agile guy that we can use to get a lot of YAC on these screens and glorified running plays. So he has tremendous value in that role. As a pure WR he is clearly not as refined as Renfrow. Renfrow also isn't nearly as good as Coker at most aspects of his role. He is on the bench because he is a redundant, less useful player in some regards. Especially when we don't have a "point guard" at QB like we were supposed to. Bryce doesn't exactly spread the ball around and definitely not efficiently.

The loss of the Pac 12 was the moment for me. If I watch the playoffs, it will be to look at specific NFL prospects. That's mostly my reason to watch any of it anymore.

Maybe. I would prefer it just doesn't happen at all. Our history on prime time is rough.

Those QB's aren't playing poorly, though. They are just on team having a dip in success for various reasons. I am not sure I would use one data point(an incomplete one at that) and claim QB's are no longer important. Especially when you consider the video game stats that the QB's of the best two teams in the NFL currently have put up.

Oh, there are more. That's just someone who has zero idea about who was drafted and when. There are 18 current NFL starting QB's that were drafted in that timespan.

If they do, it will be a massive contract flushed down the toilet. There is no valid reason to bring him back. Him returning gives us our 2nd best OL combination, IMO. I believe Corbett is more of a drop off from Mays moving to center than the drop off from Hunt to Corbett at OG. Not using that to say Hunt isn't very good but Corbett at C is atrocious.

On what planet is Hurts the best QB drafted from 2020-2025?? poo, what galaxy?

Hopium is a hellava drug. Anyone sold on Bryce at this point is just being willfully ignorant. Not saying with 100% certainty that he won't pan out at some point but I don't think we have the luxury of waiting another 4-6 seasons for that to happen, if that were even a possibility.

Mays, Horn and Moehrig back are a big deal. The LB's....eh....not that relevant.