kungfoodude

12 Mil would literally be the 6th highest paid center in the NFL. He is a backup. He is on a $3.4 mil deal and his utility might get him slightly more than that with us specifically but that's about it. If someone wants to pay him $6-8 mil, I would let him walk in an absolute heartbeat. For that price, get one of the good free agent centers available. Or, just simply draft another utility lineman. I like Mays well enough and would love to keep him but he isn't a long term starter and we shouldn't be paying him like one. Ikey I am honestly unsure of the market on him. It could be wild or it could be less painful. Given what we have had to pay Brown and Horn recently, I suspect the Panthers bump means we need to open up the pocket book. That will hurt, no question about it. The QB I hope they just throw some darts at the board and not go bananas. But the situation has to be improved.

It's crazy to think that when XL ends up being added to that bust list how long our WR misses will be. TMac looks amazing though. I really hope he just continues to improve and be the outlier that we need.

If he returns to start next season and we see the same old starting season poo, they would be fool's not to bench him quickly. In fairness, Bryce also hasn't had the same successful streak that he had post-benching in 2024. He's just been mostly bad or mediocre with blips of really, really good this season. It's illogical to continue this process much further because it's too much of a limiting factor. He isn't as good as Trent Dilfer or Nick Foles, so what is the path to the ultimate success even?

Honestly, if that works, IDGAF. I would rather see those reps go to guys like TMac and Coker, however. Especially since they appear to be a significant part of our future at the position. But, cheating for a few games to get past Tampa wouldn't be the worst thing in the world....IF it works.

Buffalo makes more sense than KC. They have far bigger issues at WR.

That's fine but why are all these other WR's having tremendously more success than XL? AT, Jalen Coker, TMac, etc. The issue isn't completely Bryce here, it's XL. Now, would he be better with a better QB and a better system? For sure. But he also wouldn't be seeing much of the field in a lot of those other "better" scenarios because those teams do a far better job of evaluating talent and calling offenses.

We would be very lucky to have XL be as productive overall as Funchess was here, TBQH. It's not looking great. I will say that XL is a more efficient player than Funchess was. Funchess career Per Game(Carolina only): 5.1 Targets, 2.64 Rec, 36.6 Yds, 0.34 TD, 1.95 First Downs, 51% Catch XL Career Per Game: 5.07 Targets, 2.85 Rec, 29.0 Yds, 0.26 TD, 1.52 First Downs, 56.2% Catch

It's the redundant threads that are a bit tiresome. If there is a real separate issue that should be discussed about Bryce, I have no issue with multiple threads but this is all like the exact same poo.

Yeah, probably not the path I would have chosen either but I also don't think it's that big of a crutch. It's pretty easy to get out with fairly minimal impact after next season.

Yes, it was very intentional. I do view him as the 5th or 6th best WR on this roster.

Want to compare the rest of their stats? I notice your flaw is that you take one data point and assume that is the full picture. You don't seem to be the sharpest, that's fairly obvious. Can't seem to be able to understand the "eye test" either.

Check out the Game Center under Stats and you will see an actual breakdown of the production for those zones.

NFL Next Gen Stats I have a spreadsheet I made of all the data for his career for everything up to the past 2-3 games.

Just like TMJ and Mingo, right?

For his passes in zones? LOS LOS-10 10-20 20+ ?

I am aware. It's gonna be an interesting decision cycle on "The Bryce Question." I don't think there are many good answers, unfortunately.

Or 2nd and 3rd round for "need" players at the position. Hell, the top centers have been available in those rounds most drafts.

LLM's always make a ton of mistakes.

We should be trying to solve the center issue once and for all, if possible. Outside of that, we should always be drafting OL to help get the depth upgraded or groom future OL starters, IMO. I get that we have way, WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too many holes on the roster to just focus on that one area(a roster strength, at that) but I have a personal philosophy of taking at least one OL in just about every draft, if not more than one.

I think they keep the 5th and we get the conditional 7th back.

XL is very clearly a bust. You try to upgrade over him in the offseason in some fashion(free agency, draft, etc) and get the overall WR Corps improved. If you have a role for him on the depth chart after that, fine. If not, pursue trades or releasing him.

Well Bryce wouldn't be off his rookie deal until 2028 and its likely his big cap hits(assuming a top 10 QB contract) wouldn't start really hitting until 2029 at the earliest and 2031 at the latest if it is structured like a lot of the last couple of waves of big QB contracts. A healthy chunk of this core OL will be gone by the time his cap situation gets dicey. A smart team would have good replacement OL on various years of their rookie deals for a healthy chunk of the other four OL spots(assuming Ikey gets a big, long term deal). Mays is unlikely to get significant interest as a starting NFL center, if I had to guess. This is a mirror scenario to BC last offseason where a large part of the Huddle dramatically overvalued his marketability.

@LinvilleGorge would it be possible for the mods to start merging some of these rather pointless and redundant Bryce reaction threads into this one? I mean....it's a little messy at the moment.

I wouldn't mind having him back but it would be in a reduced role from when he left, IMO. TMac and Coker should be your biggest two WR options. It would be nice to have another reliable big WR target behind Tremayne. A top three of TMac, Coker and AT would be pretty slick. Especially with Horn Jr. adding a little juice and Tremayne adding some solid play. That's a pretty damn good top 5 WR group.

Moton would be gone by then, Ikey likely on a big deal and it's likely one or both of Lewis and Hunt will be gone due to finances or performance drops. Mays will likely never see 6-8 mil/year here. He is a backup caliber player and has roughly the same valuation as BC. We should not be either relying on him as a long term starter nor paying him like one, as he is essentially a backup player. An extremely valuable one like BC but not one with a lot of free agency heat, I would imagine(like BC). You can't be paying backup IOL like starters. It's not smart.