kungfoodude

See, Josh...that's what a throwaway looks like.

I think you care considerably more than our fanbase does. I think most of us will remember the sweep of Atlanta far more than the snoozefest of a game that Green Bay was.

They aren't.

We aren't apologizing for it.

It shouldn't be a surprise. They have been in the top 15 in PPG and Yardage every single year that Ryans has been the coach. They were #6 in yards(#1 this year which is what you are talking about) last season. Not to mention, they have really invested a lot of draft capital and free agent capital on that side of the ball. To great success, obviously.

Throw the records out the window. That whole division is trash. The Pats and Bills records do not fool me. Insanely easy SOS and suspect results. I predict whatever of those teams makes the playoffs they will be early exits.

I honestly think the AFC East is about 10% better than the NFC South. It's easily in the discussion for worst overall division.

These guys ain't giving these gravy jobs up.

Okay, so you at least should be aware that we do have some pretty wild success in our franchise history if you have been watching the NFL(outside the Packers) for 29 years. I suppose the rosy view of our future is certainly a unique perspective outside Reddit. I think amongst the more hardcore fans you are going to see a considerable amount of skepticism about that. We appear to be at the very beginning of establishing a potential core to build around. I am not sure that is what I would consider a bright future but it's a starting point. It's been one of the rare times in the past 8 years that we might be moving forward rather than backwards. I will give you that.

I can't speak to the sample size on the double ACL tears, I could look into it but I am unsure about the quality of data I am able to find. Anecdotally, I don't think that is common for sure. Well one giant red flag for Dobbins is that of the 3-5 serious injuries he has had in his NFL career, 100% of them have been the same leg. That's not good and it doesn't bode well for his longevity at all. As I have said several hundred times in this forum(in this case it will be in regards to Thomas Davis), outliers are memorable for a reason....because they are outliers. You don't base your decision making on outliers. That's.....stupid. I am also not high on Etienne but he does play special teams and Brooks does not. Currently, I couldn't blame anyone in the FO for choosing a 3rd string RB that can play special teams and has actually played more than 23 career snaps in the NFL in 2+ seasons. I am not advocating for cutting Brooks but I don't think it's a player I would consider for anything other than a 3rd string role(and likely competing for it, at that) if I am building a roster for 2026. It's not like they are going to get to see him at 100% in 2026.

Then I would assume disingenuous. Why on earth would you consider this an "exciting" time to be a Panthers fan? Let me ask this, how old are you and how long have you been an NFL fan?

An ESPN writer had a good breakdown of teams that were likely to come back to earth(KC and Redskins were two of them) based on outlier results in 2024 in close games. I think that has a lot to do with it. Found it: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/46003861/nfl-teams-likely-decline-lose-more-games-2025-season-predictions-vikings-chiefs-commanders-lions-colts

I am not sure if you are being disingenuous or condescending here.

You'd be one of the few. My excitement is basically completely gone. I just watch because I have been watching for 30 years. It's just habit. Maybe there will be a day that this franchise elicits excitement again. It would be nice.

Allen going prime Jeff Lewis. Wow. That was fuging retarded.

Yeah, I am just not a guy that likes wrasslin' or reality TV elements in everything. I am fine with disagreements or passionate debates but I don't want manufactured nonsense. I would rather they be a bit boring than that poo. You can probably get Sherman to be mean. Just allow him to drink on set.

Eh...I gotta be honest, I hate all the hot take BS in modern sports broadcasting. It's just fuging annoying. I wish they would let some of these guys talk ACTUAL BALL like early, pre-dumbed down Tony Romo or Jon Gruden. That stuff is great. The Stephen A. Bayless and Skip Cowherd's of the world can take a walk. It's all dumbed down, fake BS.

That Faux News plastic lady creeps me the fug out. She looks like a Tim Burton character.

100%. He'd be a perfect candidate for our veteran QB slot. I would love him or Jacoby Brissett.

Al Michaels is still pretty decent. Herbstreit is a mixed bag. He's a better college guy.

He is 11/13 for 112 yds and 2 TD's since you posted this. Lol. You dun woke him up.

IDK why Herbstreit is making a big deal about them not tackling him after the spin. I don't think they let up at all, they were just out of position in the first place.

LOL. WTF is this game.

That's a helluva a streak to not have thrown a pick six.

Yeah, I am not wishing it on the dude but even the move to draft Etienne was a pretty obvious sign they plan on moving on. So, if we re-sign Dowdle(unsure this will happen) either Etienne or Brooks isn't gonna make the roster. If we don't re-sign Dowdle, does anyone really thing we will go into a season with Chuba backed up by Brooks and Etienne?? That would be....pretty unwise.