kungfoodude

I think the Mannings would basically maneuver away from us in some way, shape or form.

Record is largely irrelevant. It's about what the actual team looks like. In this case, through two games the starters have been a mixed bag and the reserves have been mostly very bad, with a few notable exceptions. I care very little about being 0-2 in a meaningless preseason but us looking below average to significantly below average almost across the board is just plain bad. It's likely an indication that we aren't likely to start the season strong. That would be bad because the early part of the schedule appears to be very easy on paper.

Wallace was another big project player that really shouldn't be getting this time at all. I don't think "trial by fire" seems to be working. Another pick I disliked because we sorely needed a player to start and be effective immediately not. Ravens-type guy that could be a special teamer/backup for a while on a deep ass roster. The Panthers obsession with these type of guys while having some of the worst rosters in franchise history is really fuging infuriating.

Imagine calling what the Browns have at QB "depth."

I would rank that as perhaps the 10 or 11th biggest issue with the roster.

I mean this was one that I and so many other Huddlers nailed. What a completely insane pick at the time and proved to be that in hindsight. Once again, the Huddle knows better than our FO and coaching staff. Ridiculous how often this is happening.

So you would have us be as bad or worse? Great plan Tepper Jr.

Honestly, no. A fifth round caliber trade QB is not worth fuging with, IMO. Just let it go if it gets to this. It didn't work out.

Don't sleep on the non-MJ Hornets.

Define "good?"

Hard to say. Doesn't necessarily project as a strong QB class early. The biggest reason for panic if Bryce flops this season would be Dan and DC trying to save their jobs, most likely. So perhaps they reach next draft or offseason.

The Mannings have historically been pretty selective about where they want to end up. so I think it is not only about how Arch does at Texass but who is drafting in the first couple of spots in the draft. He should be helped a lot by a class that seems loaded(pre-season, which means little) with guys that wouldn't have been first round picks in 2025.

It's wild to see people look at this roster and talk playoffs. It was hard to not just audibly laugh every time I read it.

It isn't relevant if it does or doesn't have importance(don't really believe it has a major significance personally). The offseason is basically over. This team just is what it is. Look, if it is a disaster, we have weeks to wail and gnash our teeth. It's fine. Just another day as a Tepper Panthers fan.

Well, we could have said that last season too but Bryce came back from the dead. But, if he has to do so again, it will be a pretty big red flag. Even if he bombs, putting Dalton(or any off the street FA JAG) in has a limited spark potential. We likely live and die on that side of the ball by what Bryce does. I am not gonna get too high nor too low about it. It just is what it is at this point.

I wouldn't overly worry about it, TBH. We will likely know what we have by about halfway through the season if not earlier. Even had Bryce been tearing it up, I would be preaching the same thing. It's preseason so the takeaways are lesser than normal. Just let it play out.

Well, we knew depth was going to be bad. That was inevitable. Yes Dan was a part of the problem but on the surface he seems to have improved the roster overall. Not sure it will really be enough to matter but I suppose we will find out. Also not sure even if he starts to have success that he will be around to see it through.

I wouldn't say there isn't much to churn rather that there isn't a real reason to do so outside maybe some special teams guys or priorty waivers that could make an impact. Aside from that, it's juat business as usual. See what we have and see what we can develop.

Agreed. It is ao insane to be panicking about the fuging backup QB at this point. When that becomes necessary, we are already fuged.

It's insane to be trading for a #3 QB. Ride this out, move on to 2026.

Well, in fairness, that was always going to be the case. We are at least a couple of successful offseasons away from having any real depth.

Eh....if it happens when it matters, at least we have the answer. At this point, him stinking is better than being above average. At least we can pivot to the next attempt rather than end up with a Goff/Dak/Lawrence contract.

IDK why people consistently fight against the idea that this is the 2nd worst roster in franchise history. It just is what it is. No reason to freak out. Evaluate the players in 2025, move on.

Jesus Christ....how is this misdiagnosed???

6.5 is a solid line. 6-7 wins is reasonable. I would bet that under too. I would have said that 2 months ago, though.