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Ikey is highly unlikely to play, that seemed fairly obvious after the surgery. If either of the guards misses the game, we are likely royally fuged. I can tell you that for all the bitching about Ikey's pass protection, we are gonna see some wild poo if Niman suits up. That kid is fuging awful.

Not just McConkey, any actually productive WR. It would be nice for him to prove all of us doubters wrong but this all just seems to be a typical Panthers set up for a typical Panthers bust.

Yeah. Please build your brand after you get good at football. I am fine with all the clowning in the world if you are living up to your draft position.

IMO, both EDGE starters, one DE, both LB's, at least one CB and a S need upgrades. Potentially NT, TBD. Now could some of these guys penciled in pan out to be above average NFL caliber starters? For sure. I just don't think the bulk of them can, hence how I came up with my numbers.

I don't think it's about being pessimistic there, just realistic. We have done a pretty poor job of maintaining and building that side of the ball. It just sort of is what it is. I mean, outside D. Brown and Horn, there are no realcore players. Several maybes/young guys but if we are being honest, that's about it. Possibly some of the rookies and maybe Wallace. The rest are replacement level journeymen or guys that should be rotational/depth players. When you get into the depth chart, it's largely PS caliber players.

I am gonna disagree. Likely more like 8-9. If you include depth guys, probably more like 14-15.

Yeah, not matter how bad Bryce is, he can't be worse than Rattler/Shough. That's a nightmare fuel QB room.

The offense could prove to have gotten better, even if Bryce is a bust. The defense keeps getting worse. TBH, IF TMac/Coker/XL pan out(or at least 2 of the 3), the offense could just be a QB away from being pretty decent. That cannot be said of the defense. We are more than likely quite a few players away from being a top 10 defense.

If the defensive FA signings are mostly a bust, it's unquestionably time to move on. We keep getting guys for his defense. It's overdue for some sort of result. For me to even consider keeping him around, this defense has to finish top 16 overall.

Hopefully we have learned some fuging lessons for once.

I would rather doubt that.

I am in the "he is a CB" camp. I am just not sure he is special at WR. He is at CB.

LOL. Clark is a three time Pro Bowler.

I wouldn't have had a problem with giving up Brown for Parsons but we literally can't afford the 2 firsts. That's future roster suicide.

The time it takes to turn them around isn't likely to be hit by a 73 year old.

The "student" part has historically beeen a farce for revenue athletes.

They got Baby GOAT fever.

I am curious to see how long it takes for them to realize Hunter isn't a WR but a CB.

Yep and that is at Texas Tech, who pulls in a massive chunk of money from both of those sports.

Yeah, lot of these chirping fans would quickly find out their real place.

Yeah, that's what I mean. It will basically be a football organization filled with the deepest pockets and best markets. That likely excludes almost if not all the ACC.

If the coaches have freedom of movement and if the regular students have freedom of movement, so should the athletes. Tired of this fake "student athlete" crap that they have pushed for decades when what they meant was unpaid labor. I am perfectly fine with free agency every offseason until real contracts exist.

Pretty much the entire ACC minus perhaps Clemson and FSU would be outside that agreement.

I don't agree. Free agency exists in the pros so if they want that version, then have contracts.

I think he viewed this as his proof of concept for his triumphant return to the NFL. It always seemed drenched in some level of hubris. That he would waltz in, be a massive success and have ample NFL grovelers at his feet. Also not very rooted in reality. Truthfully, he was almost always a terrible personnel evaluator and that doomed New England to being the dumpster fire they are now.