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The Case for(or Against) Drafting/Signing a TE
kungfoodude replied to kungfoodude's topic in Carolina Panthers
I think they may not view TE as very important. We will see. -
The Case for(or Against) Drafting/Signing a TE
kungfoodude replied to kungfoodude's topic in Carolina Panthers
I don't think DC would bring in someone who is already a more successful HC and also a far, far, FAR more impressive offensive coach. He is gonna view that as a potential job threat, IMO. And that's outside the lack of established prior coaching staff relationship. I think if you see DC give up duties, it would be to Idzik. -
The Case for(or Against) Drafting/Signing a TE
kungfoodude replied to kungfoodude's topic in Carolina Panthers
I somewhat suspect they view the group as "complete." -
The Case for(or Against) Drafting/Signing a TE
kungfoodude replied to kungfoodude's topic in Carolina Panthers
He basically is only able to make adjustments with at least a week of hindsight. He is completely clueless on the in game adjustments. Tremendously worse than guys like Fox or Rivera who were constantly criticized for that. -
The Case for(or Against) Drafting/Signing a TE
kungfoodude replied to kungfoodude's topic in Carolina Panthers
I was going to say the latter, TBH. He seems pretty inflexible. -
The Case for(or Against) Drafting/Signing a TE
kungfoodude replied to kungfoodude's topic in Carolina Panthers
It's super tough for me to predict 2026 without the insane amount of variables involved. I will wait to see what the offseason looks like. Tepper has tended to be too impatient with HC's and too patient with GM's. Just on average, I would say. I don't think we really ever canned anyone(HC or GM) that didn't have or coming. -
The Case for(or Against) Drafting/Signing a TE
kungfoodude replied to kungfoodude's topic in Carolina Panthers
I mean it is literally in the OP, bruh. -
The Case for(or Against) Drafting/Signing a TE
kungfoodude replied to kungfoodude's topic in Carolina Panthers
Eh...I don't think Carroll is to blame for Mayer. He is a 3rd year player and has never really been able to elevate above a JAG status across multiple coaches. TBH, I think he is much more Tommy Tremble than he is Brock Bowers. Tremble might even be a good comp. I am not lobbying to get rid of Tremble but he has basically hit his Ian Thomas wall. He is who he is. If you lined up all 5 years of statistics and tape, you'd be hard pressed to determine which player was the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th or 5th year guy. He's a decent and rosterable TE. He's also a guy that we should be actively trying to upgrade over.....and we have. Sanders was the first and then we still drafted Evans. Some of this was we run a TE heavy offense and had an even worse TE room but some of it has also been that Tremble is a complimentary/role player. He really shouldn't be getting anywhere near the bulk of snaps. -
The Case for(or Against) Drafting/Signing a TE
kungfoodude replied to kungfoodude's topic in Carolina Panthers
As I keep saying, defensive coordinator here is our most interesting offseason storyline. That will be a very interesting thing to watch unfold. 2027 for DC? I am not sure about that. I think a lot depends on the remaining games and which direction they chose to go in the offseason. If we quintuple down on Bryce, I think Canales is on a hotter seat than we may know. That would be a bet on the future being Bryce but not necessarily Dave. To me that's an indication of the choice. So, if we struggle these last three games and then slide backwards in 2026, expect a rip roaring fire to be under Canales seat as the season continues. I wouldn't even be surprised to see him canned during the season. Now, if we opt to move on in some way from Bryce(new starter, trade him, decline 5th year, etc) then I think that buys Dave a little big of grace(situation dependent) if he is trying to get a new QB established in this offense. That leash may shorten or grow based on the direction they pivot. So, the seat could get cooler or hotter. Results will matter in either case. Tepper has shown to be impatient with head coaches, so we will see how he handles this slight amount of success. -
David. Hey, money talks.....it has been acknowledged that Tepper isn't shy on spending. He's had the NFL equivalents of used car salesman after used car salesman line up to grift him of a big chunk. Canales is one of them. Until that changes, it's gonna be tough to build anything to last.
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The Case for(or Against) Drafting/Signing a TE
kungfoodude replied to kungfoodude's topic in Carolina Panthers
Canales doesn't have a history of TE utilization, however. I would imagine they will try to upgrade at WR. Legette has already seen his PT cut by about mid-season. He went from 70-90% utilization on offensive snaps to 55-70% utilization. I think you see that they basically are aware that he just isn't a capable NFL player. He is having a sophomore slump but that's tough when you also had a freshman slump. The fans see a lot of potential in that WR room, and I do to an extent, but you also have to acknowledge that despite the improvement, it's still one of the NFL's worst WR corps. -
The Case for(or Against) Drafting/Signing a TE
kungfoodude replied to kungfoodude's topic in Carolina Panthers
I think Scourton/Umanmeilen's ceilings will ultimately be potential Wonnum/Jones II replacements and that's about it. Umanmeilen has the higher ceiling but he looks pretty far from being able to reach it. At this point you have to consider them rotational guys and try to get actual elite/starting talent at EDGE. Let them develop as rotational guys and hopefully the light clicks on eventually. I would imagine any/all OC changes will be basically forced by ownership prior to firing Dave. -
I think they plan on being "light" in the FO so that all ways remain the Queen's ways. JMO. They don't want many dissenting opinions, specifically those that have any sense.
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IDK, at least Rhule would have tried him at EDGE to see if we could get a couple of more pressures on the QB.
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I agree we are a better team, I genuinely don't believe we are substantially better than last season but it is a step in the right direction, without any doubt. We just need to keep making sure the roster is continually improving each offseason. That's been a massive problem during the Tepper tenure. Almost every offseason has resulted in a worse roster than the year before. In fact, this may be the first time during his ownership that it actually improved.
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The Case for(or Against) Drafting/Signing a TE
kungfoodude replied to kungfoodude's topic in Carolina Panthers
There are some decent options but mostly in the 30+ crowd that might be a little pricey. IMO, TE upgrade makes a little more sense through the draft IF you can see another TE class like the 2025 class. Evans has been better than I expected him to be but we REALLY whiffed on some serious weapons in that 2025 TE class. I don't expect this to be a priority for our FO at all. We just don't use TE's enough for them to target them, IMO. I think it would be a potentially big boost to the offense but I don't think it's something Dave Canales values, at all. All the more reason to get a real OC in here. -
I think the OL is the position we should be in the best overall and really are. That's our best group outside of RB, although that will soon fall off dramatically with Dowdle likely leaving. That said, it's a group that should ALWAYS be adding assets in the draft to upgrade. IMO, I would rank our position groups(worst at the top): 1. ILB 2. QB 3. EDGE 4. TE 5. WR 6. DL 7. S 8. CB 9. K/P 10. OL 11. RB
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IDK about what Bryce needs, per se. I posted up a thread with some utilization rates for Canales specifically, so I think there is legitimately a hard ceiling for TE impact in his offense. You think that WR grouping is? I think you forgot to finish your thought on the sidebar.
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The Case for(or Against) Drafting/Signing a TE
kungfoodude replied to kungfoodude's topic in Carolina Panthers
He is very much in line with his career averages almost across the board. He hasn't seen the endzone much but that is also probably a reflection of the fact that their overall passing TD's are down quite a bit(Baker at his lowest Passing TD's/GM in his Tampa career). I don't think he is gonna break the bank but it's probably going to be more than I would want to personally pay. -
The Case for(or Against) Drafting/Signing a TE
kungfoodude replied to kungfoodude's topic in Carolina Panthers
I think he would just end up in a crowded TE room without the ability to really stand out. Tremble is a decent enough roster guy that makes sense for us because we have such heavy multiple TE utilization rates but realistically he is a JAG. Sanders is trending bust and Evans I still have some hope for, although he has fallen off recently. I don't think there is a single guy on the roster that cannot be upgraded over. I just don't think Mayer is an upgrade over really any of them. Probably a lateral movement at the very best. -
TBH, I think we might have something in Coker as a decent possession WR but outside TMac, it's largely JAGs. It's a moderate potential and probably the lowest floor of any NFL roster outside of those two guys. Arguably even with those two guys. It's easily the worst WR room just in the NFC South alone. So, I do think it's still an extreme need. Perhaps behind other extreme needs but it's a position in pretty sad shape overall.
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The Case for(or Against) Drafting/Signing a TE
kungfoodude replied to kungfoodude's topic in Carolina Panthers
Otton will be in line for a payday but I don't know if I would love paying top dollar for a guy that we would use but likely never get our monies worth because of the offense in general that we run. I would rather attempt that in the draft for a couple of reasons, it's cheap and if we DO land an elite TE, he should outlast the HC/OC that we have and it's possible to see him flourish eventually. -
Evero is a very mixed bag. His scheme is capable of hiding some personnel deficiencies while dramatically amplifying others. The one thing I will fully admit is that we can actually do far worse than Evero, although I would like to make a change there. My personal expectation would be that we would immediately make a very bad DC hire when/if he leaves. I don't believe that Canales/Tepper will be able to get a high caliber coordinator to be interested for several reasons. Not the least of which being this defense is constructed very, very poorly(for which Evero deserves at least some of the blame). One thing that seems to be a small positive is that DC does appear to let Evero basically completely run that defense without a ton of input. So that level of autonomy might be attractive to a few candidates.
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BPA comes with the caveat of positional value and roster need included. Never let the latter two completely overwhelm the first, however. Our FO seems to lean heavily into "WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE POTENTIALZ!!!" as a fourth category and often it seems as the #1 overall pursuit. With as many needs as this roster has, I am not going to get upset over a real roster upgrade at WR versus some reach at EDGE or whatever other extreme needs we have. Overall, I want to see the roster get better. There is far, far, FAR more than one offseason of work left to get this roster into the top 10-12 in the NFL. That should be the goal.
