kungfoodude

Gettleman vs. Hurney 2.0

Fair enough. I also would have run the ball.

Saw ghosts?

Yeah, they can lean heavy run. I would. But, they don't have the time for 3 FG's.

It would have worked. Late and behind. That was on Stroud....again.

I mean this ain't even about Bryce. To an extent CJ tanking his career does make that trade up look even worse. So we sold the absolute farm for a QB draft with zero good first round QB's. That would suck even worse.

LMAO. HE ALMOST DID IT AGAIN. That was so late!

Lol. Don't count it out. I wouldn't call any pitches, that is for sure.

Don't overthink it. Run the ball.

It ain't over but one more mistake and I think Stroud is done.

Damn. Maybe they need to be running Chubb.

That's it boys, Texans waving the white flag. Time to move on from Ryans.

Yes and absolutely, without any question whatsoever, yes.

Yeah, you never count on this window being open again. This ain't about CJ Stroud, it's about the Houston Texans. Even Bryce got the hook for better play than this in our shitbox organization with a crowd of idiots in charge. And that wasn't in a playoff game with an AFC championship and likely Super Bowl appearance at the end of all this. It is absolute insanity to keep attempting this.

Nah, it's about winning the game. Not proving or disproving being "the guy." He has answered that call through 6 quarters of football with 5 fumbles(2 lost) and 5 INT's. The question has been answered. He is not the guy.

I agree. This is a no brainer. This game is still in reach...but not with CJ. You are KILLING your defense with this poo. Agreed. It's a tough spot for any coach but you gotta look into your guys eyes and know if they are gonna be able to do it. Right now, how is that a "yes?" I agree. He got a lot of hype for being an MVP candidate this year so I don't think he changes it until it becomes an issue. It's very correctable.

It's so insane. I never thought I would see a worse game than the Jake game.

Yeah, it is so crazy that this is even a discussion. He is absolutely done. It's written all over his face on the field, on the sideline, in the huddle, etc. It's insane.

He hasn't played a pass rush like this often this year. Not even close.

This is the equivalent of leaving a goalie in to get shelled instead of pulling him. It's absolutely bananas that he hasn't gotten the hook.

I would start exploring options, for sure. Look, it's not just this. He has genuinely never been able to recapture that rookie season juice. Even this past season, the team looked better with Mills in there and he ain't great. Look up those replays and see the looks he had on the sideline injured and watching them win. I think his confidence keeps getting lower and I genuinely think he may never recover from this. It's not his abilities but he has been mentally extremely fragile in his time in Houston with an insanely good team around him.

IMO, I would explore moving on from Ryans. This game is now on him.

Dude, I actually agree. This two game stretch may actually break him as an NFL player. Not a joke.

This loss is now on you, Ryans. 100%

But even a pressured Bryce would try and use his legs to create. Stroud is completely incapable of that. I am not saying Bryce would be slinging the rock out there but he damn sure wouldn't be crapping his pants THIS bad. Bryce has never had a two game stretch as bad as Stroud has had....so far. Completely ineffective is one thing, literally being the opposing teams MVP is another.