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Arm strength is a big deal in the NFL because it means you will be a lot more reliant on being in a system that is suited to shorter throws or having big playmakers. Sean Payton would probably do well with him, Josh McDaniels, etc. He isn't able to make all the NFL throws, however. I would say he is a below average arm strength for the NFL from what I have seen. He does have some nice touch and he seems to process the routes well but, TBH, the offense at Alabama is designed to get the ball into the big time playmakers hands and let them do their thing. Accuracy and decision making CAN improve at the NFL level but a lot of that just depends on the guy. Typically an accurate college passer(which all of the top 4 QB's are very accurate college passers, as is Jones) bodes well for accuracy in the NFL. But, then you have a guy like Josh Allen that has a much higher NFL completion percentage than he had in college football. So it isn't a rule that is the case and outliers do exist. Conversely, someone like Sam Darnold was a very accurate college passer but has been a rather inaccurate NFL passer.

Proven winners haven't always fared well in the NFL. That is the one thing that isn't a 1:1 translation because the college game is so tilted towards power programs and power conferences. Athleticism would be less of an issue if Jones had elite arm talent, but he doesn't. That's the main rub. Not a good athlete AND lacking in arm ability makes it tough. He really has to be very, very elite in everything else and I don't personally see that.

Last year was the most stress free year of Panthers football I have ever watched. I literally just approached it as entertainment and didn't get upset very often. Seeing the wins was nice because it showed we had some real moxy and potential, and the losses didn't bother me much(except for the Redskins one, that one had me pissed) because I knew that the better our draft pick was, the better the shots we had at higher talent level.

Pay close attention to the money and duration of all the deals coming out. That will be a big early indicator of what the market is going to be like.

Just wanted to give you the opportunity to get another "I fuging told you so" in.

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That guy is the king of shifty salary cap moves. I will give him that.

Matt Ryan is and was way more talented than Jones as a prospect.

Damn! VP material???

That is one thing that is going to be interesting to see. There are legit #1 and #2 WR's available this free agent class. Unless there are a lot of teams that want to spend loot on free agent WR's, Samuel COULD end up being more of a bargain signing.

He was a lot more solid tackling this past season. I realize that bar is low.

If he is largely viewed as a slot guy by the league, his value would obviously drop in the open market. One thing that is hard to deny is he is one of the best TO producing DB's we have ever had. That also adds a lot of value.

I think Jackson has been better/more consistent than Samuel was up to his contract year. I think his injury red flags are higher than Samuel. He is going to be a REALLY tough decision to make. Samuel was great in 2020 but his production can be replaced a lot easier than Jackson's ability and production.

None of these guys are perfect prospects, but that isn't a big shock. I think if you line up the pros and the cons, Jones has way more cons than the rest of those other 4 guys do IMO. I can see the argument to a higher overall floor than some of them but his ceiling is just so low. His best case range doesn't have a lot of elite QB's in it.

The funny thing about him is that even the Lance stans(and I am largely one) can understand the criticisms of him as a prospect. The Jones stans cannot wrap their heads around why people don't like him as a prospect. IMO, you really have to believe in that elite processing and upper tier decision making idea for him to be a top 10 prospect.

Aside from Jackson, who has a bad injury history, we need both outside and slot guys. Elder was pretty good at nickel. Pride was pretty bad at times but he's a mid-round rookie, so I think he probably just needs some more development time. He definitely has a lot of potential. Maybe by year 3 the light will really start to come on. I don't think we can conclusively say that any of these guys will be here in 2-3 years, so I don't think we should pass up the opportunity to get better at the position.

IDK. So hard to know what the market is going to look like. If it is anything like the normal free agency period, if he doesn't get signed in the first week or so, he probably isn't going to get a big deal.

I disagree but you will have plenty of crow to serve if that is indeed the case.

Okay. That makes sense, in that case. Objection withdrawn.

Okay, so this is a rating that doesn't take into account the actual performance of the guys in the NFL last season?

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Yeah, quite honestly, I would take Herbert over any of those QB's at the moment. Only maybe Fields and Lance can touch his ceiling and he has actually shown it on the field.

Interesting ranking. Why would you take Burrow, Wilson and Tua over Herbert?