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Protecting his draft stock. Ouch. Well we know that guy won't be in Carolina....
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I must have missed that. They had a guy decline to cover a guy in a drill??? Seriously?
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Yeah, I think the salary cap reduction hurt him. If I were him, I'd take a 1 year deal and bank on the cap jumping next year.
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This also depends on what the market looks like for him. That is going to be a big unknown.
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Stafford didn’t want to come to the Panthers
kungfoodude replied to raleigh-panther's topic in Carolina Panthers
I'd rather see the Rams win than any of our division rivals, I will say that. -
I don't think you are gonna see him publicly trash any of these guys. If you saw the workouts he might be hard on them but his focus was trying to get them in a better place to be drafted and be better players. Now privately, I am quite sure he would tell some people that X or Y player just wasn't worth the trouble. I haven't seen him burn a player publicly, be a little critical maybe.
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He just went through the Senior Bowl. I would say his stock level is about to be locked into where it will stay for the next couple of months.
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Stafford didn’t want to come to the Panthers
kungfoodude replied to raleigh-panther's topic in Carolina Panthers
Luck wasn't a style of play issue. Teddy Bridgewater wasn't a style of play issue. Nor was Alex Smith. Sometimes this poo just happens. Tom Brady and Drew Brees both had extremely serious injuries. Drew Brees one that almost cost him his career. That is my point. You make your assessment of how much a guy has left in the tank, his skill level and all the other factors. You don't just look at a birth date and assume someone is near the end. How many 38+ QB's have been playing more and STILL being effective in recent years? That playing style factor is more pertinent for the running QB's like Vick, Cam, Lamar Jackson, etc. They get RB wear and tear and that can really add up quickly....as NFL RB career length stats have shown. I will hear the argument against Stafford in that his peak window and our competitiveness window may not necessarily align(although we seem to be ahead of schedule in that regard). I just can't agree with the bulk of the arguments against him(age, money, injury history, W/L record, etc). -
CBS mocks = flavor of the week/lotto ball selections.
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Stafford didn’t want to come to the Panthers
kungfoodude replied to raleigh-panther's topic in Carolina Panthers
Yeah but you could also draft a guy like Luck or RGIII that is injured and out of the league far short of the expectation. I just don't think we agree on that 30-33 range being "the back end" of a QB career. -
Stafford didn’t want to come to the Panthers
kungfoodude replied to raleigh-panther's topic in Carolina Panthers
I mean....okay. I agree that is probably the best spot for him but we will see. Not a position I would take that strong of a stance on. -
Stafford didn’t want to come to the Panthers
kungfoodude replied to raleigh-panther's topic in Carolina Panthers
Well Watson is also rumored to be interested in the Jets, and that is about as far from a "win now" franchise as you could get. -
Stafford didn’t want to come to the Panthers
kungfoodude replied to raleigh-panther's topic in Carolina Panthers
The thing is that of course he gets injured. Philip Rivers got injured all the time too. EVERYONE IN THE NFL GETS INJURED. I really have no idea how he got the "injury prone" rap. My God....if he is always injured, how is he throwing for 4k+ yards all the time?? Guess he wasn't that injured. -
Stafford didn’t want to come to the Panthers
kungfoodude replied to raleigh-panther's topic in Carolina Panthers
Well 6 of the 10 ten passers in the NFL this year were 30+. Hell, 4 of the 6 were 36+. Also, of those 4, one has struggled with(and played through) injuries his entire career and two of the others have had serious knee injuries. Remember that this is also the modern NFL where it is almost illegal to touch the QB. As long as you don't have a guy that isn't getting a RB pounding(Carr, Cam, etc), they should last for a while. I just am not buying into this "too old" mantra for these top flight QB's. Not all of them are Andrew Luck. -
Stafford didn’t want to come to the Panthers
kungfoodude replied to raleigh-panther's topic in Carolina Panthers
Is Russell Wilson on the back end of his career? -
That was a great commerical.
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He is actually less talented than Teddy, IMO.
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Stafford didn’t want to come to the Panthers
kungfoodude replied to raleigh-panther's topic in Carolina Panthers
Remember when people said that about Tom Brady this past offseason...... -
Stafford didn’t want to come to the Panthers
kungfoodude replied to raleigh-panther's topic in Carolina Panthers
I think the concern is having an NFL caliber starting QB. Make no mistake, Matt Stafford is a top 10 NFL QB. Those don't grow on trees. It isn't likely we obtain one of those at #8. It is actually pretty unlikely that happens. -
Stafford didn’t want to come to the Panthers
kungfoodude replied to raleigh-panther's topic in Carolina Panthers
LMAO. Yes the Chargers have really competed for fans in LA. The dude wants to win. The Rams are set to win. This guy just lived in Detroit....you think that Southern California is gonna scare him off? Yeah, sign me up for that kind of weather. -
Stafford didn’t want to come to the Panthers
kungfoodude replied to raleigh-panther's topic in Carolina Panthers
It isn't like our top 10 picks recently have netted us franchise changing players, TBH. Very good players but none that have changed the fortunes of the franchise. Other than perhaps Cam. -
Panthers offered "More than a 1st" for Stafford
kungfoodude replied to ncfan's topic in Carolina Panthers
You are aware how little Stafford's contract is for 2021 and 2022, right? So explain how that keeps us from signing Moton. You are aware he is a 2021 Free Agent, correct? The Rams jettisoned an awful QB contract and obtained a top 10 NFL QB for 2 1sts and a 3rd. Given the acceptance of Goff was likely the 1st rounder, that is pretty damn cheap. And comparing Stafford and Cam is apples to applesauce. Stafford has been injured but he looked better with a broken thumb than Cam did supposedly healthy. Since 2015, Stafford has missed 8 games. Cam has missed 18 games. I love Cam to death but he is a shell of himself. Stafford threw for over 4000 yards, 26 TD's and at a 64.6% rate while playing with a broken thumb part of the year. The rest of what you are talking about is purely speculative or inaccurate. Paying Stafford 35+ mil. Maybe. No free agency money. Since when? Our cap situation is looking pretty good. No draft picks? So, hypothetically, losing 2 first rounders and a 3rd is all our draft picks? Finally, at our current position it is entirely likely we MAY have to trade draft capital to move up to get one of these young QB's. I fully agree that if we hit on that pick, there is nothing more valuable than a 5 year rookie QB deal. However, this is also ignoring that none of those first round QB's are sure things. Matt Stafford is a well known commodity and regarded as one of the best QB's in the league. If you don't believe me, look at what was being offered for him and the amount of teams trying to acquire him. -
What Carolina and others offered for Stafford
kungfoodude replied to Calboyz13's topic in Carolina Panthers
CMC is unlikely to be traded. Not only do most teams(perhaps none) not want him with that contract but it would be extremely detrimental to our cap.