kungfoodude

It's probably an inevitability that this happens. Let's hope it doesn't happen until Belichick retires. Who knows how he will find a way to cheat that system.

Since we picked up the 5th year for Darnold, he would still carry a very substantial dead cap hit next year($18.6 mil) when we move on from him. I suspect he will be easier to trade than Bridgewater was, however. I am genuinely stunned we got anything at all for him. Fitterer looks like a genius based on that trade alone.

I would think it will likely be ATL and us battling it out for last in the division while Tampa easily beats NO for first. It's a process. We'll ascend to the top eventually.

I suspect if/when Darnold fails it will matter how our overall record is. If he fails but we are around .500, perhaps we still don't reach and build the rest of the roster. If he fails spectacularly, I think you might see a little desperation creep into getting a QB in the draft or in free agency. They seem a lot more comfortable dumpster diving in free agency or through trades than taking guys in the draft.

Yeah, he was stout against us last night too. Concerning since he was a 0-2-0 5.00 GAA guy.

This team had given us fits all year long. I was surprised to see us crush them last night. Time to circle the wagons if you want that #1 overall seed.

He is a bust. Please stop pining over these guys, Huddle. Some of this poo is just blatantly obvious.

Yeah, I will take draft failure if I can have that kind of success. Pats are another "used to be successful" draft team. Give me the Seahawks results all day long. fug the draft.

Well, we had some pretty massive fails as far as "draft value" over the course of the draft, as well. I don't think anyone can say with certainty what our plan is that isn't in the organization.

@Zod @rayzor @LinvilleGorge Pin this poo to the top. The legend is back.

The return of @SCP.

The thing is, they clearly value QB by being involved with Stafford and Watson. I have to think they just had a very narrow grade on QB's in the draft.

Hopefully we continue to destroy Chicago. I want to exorcise those demons headed into the playoffs.

That isn't encouraging to have that dufus KOD'ing our new QB.

Yeah, that is what concerns me so much. The history of these reclamation projects at QB is not exactly stellar. I will say that if Horn and the hodgepodge of relatively who Dat OL additions(draft and FA) work out, that will lessen the blow of Darnold continuing to be a bust quite a bit. Although I am certainly a proponent of getting a franchise QB whenever the opportunity presents itself, it wouldn't be awful to have the luxury of pulling a move like San Francisco or the Rams and just buying a new QB after the team is largely in place.

Well, they bought low on both accounts. We will see if that ends up being the right strategy.

I have been optimistic enough in my lifetime as a Panthers fan. I am just adopting a wait and see approach. If it works out, awesome. Finally. If it doesn't.....well....Panthers tradition will remain.

Scared of being the Bengals? 100%.

Yeah but you can insert Marty Hurney and Dave Gettleman into that logic and end up in nothing but tears. We all hope that Rhule and Fitterer know what they are doing but we absolutely do not know that. TBD

I mean, it doesn't even look like he is really........Tryon. I'll see myself out.

Precisely. QB and LT are far more valuable positions in the modern NFL than CB. The question is, are the guys we passed on actually better than Horn will be? TBD.

Well, if Slater turns into a good LT or Fields turns into a good QB while we struggle at LT or QB, it could look like a questionable decision. I don't see a reason to jump on the "WE ARE OBVIOUSLY GENIUSES" train without the acknowledgement that we could end up regretting that 8th pick(or some of the moves after it). We never know the full story until long after the draft.

That is a hindsight discussion, in fairness. How many "on paper" draft classes have we had that looked less than stellar 3-4 years later. This one is likely going to be a boom or bust, IMO. Not a lot of middle ground.

Indeed. Very good gamble. If he is even a two deep player for the entire rookie contract, that is a HR for a 6th round pick.

Pass blocking exists.