kungfoodude

5-9 wins seems about the range I would predict pre-training camp. The amount of unknowns is rather high for us.

Spending too much money on overpaid short term fixes(assuming they are even fixing anything) isn't what rebuilding teams should do. We aren't going to be able to improve much from the current FA crop but we can sure burn through our cap space attempting to do just that. The offseason is effectively over minus trading, injury additions, and camp cuts.

Roll with what we have now and attempt to improve next offseason. We should know at this point this is rebuilding. Hurney is gone, no reason for Hurneyism to persist.

The fact that so many teams in the league are passing on Dix(including us) should basically let everyone know that his career is likely over.

And what did I say about Payton?

Hill has some "fight" as a QB in New Orleans because that is an otherwordly talented team and offense. Remember how everyone thought Teddy was going to be the poo because he went 5-0 with the Saints? Hill starting is Payton's hubris(as I previously stated). Hill is a great gadget player but installing him as a full time starter in the NFL is eventually going to get Payton fired. Unless he has gotten mush headed in his old age, I think he is going to realize this eventually and put him back as a gadget player. Winston has a TON of upside and a TON of downside. Namely, hyper aggressive gunslinger play that directly leads to TO's. Are either of them going to be able to replace Drew Brees? Highly unlikely. He was an ideal QB for that offense. One thing I can basically predict with little risk of being wrong is that Taysom Hill is not an NFL caliber starting QB. He might get his Kyle Allen moments in but the grind of the NFL is eventually going to even further expose how much he ISN'T an NFL caliber QB. Even with the league's best offensive mind at the helm.

Darnold is a former #1 pick, with a bunch of arm talent, has been a complete bust in the NFL but is only 23 years old. Jameis Winston is a former #1 pick, with a bunch of arm talent and NFL production, has been a moderate bust in the NFL but is only 27 years old. Taysom Hill is a former UDFA, has thrown a total of 134 passes in 53 career NFL games for 4 TD's and 3 INT's in 17 career starts(not all at QB), and is also going to be 31 years old during the 2021 season. Now, which of those really stands out as not being the one you would want to hitch your bandwagon to for the future?

Cyclists have always had dedicated lanes. They are called sidewalks and road shoulders.

We are at peak distracted driving, as well. Never has there been a worse time to be a motorcyclist, biker or even motorist. I remember growing up and if you saw a vehicle swerving or drifting you immediately assumed they were intoxicated. Now, 99 times out of 100, they are on their fuging cell phones.

How is this a thread(other than the obvious trolling)? These stats have been posted numerous times in numerous threads. We are aware that he has been awful in his NFL career. Nothing anyone can do about that now. Best we can do is hope he somehow isn't awful anymore. It is what it is.

Reports said Teddy was our QB of the future and Jimmy Clausen was the steal of the draft. Consider the sources of those reports. All I can say is, if you didn't see what Taysom The Golden Calf of Bristol was last year when he started, you just aren't going to be able to see it at all.

Lol. Keep thinking that. See how that works out. I will make this bet, Taysom The Golden Calf of Bristol will never start another game in the NFL outside a Saints uniform.

And much more fun. That is the advantage of a gunslinger. That is why PJ Walker was more fun to watch.

It says much more about Payton than Winston, IMO.

TBD.

Just the idea of this statement is completely laughable. Hill is not even an NFL caliber QB. He is a poor man's The Golden Calf of Bristol.

I kind of agree. But.....Payton has done some pretty irrational things for Hill so far. I genuinely hope he thinks Hill is the guy. I would live to see him tank the Saints for a couple of seasons because of pure hubris.

Agreed. I'd either tank hard than me mediocre to kind of bad. If this QB doesn't pan out, the desperation is going to start sinking in the coaching staff, I think. Having a third starting QB in three seasons is about the worst thing imaginable for a new coaching staff.

Agreed. I am not sure it would be regretting moving on from Teddy as much as moving to Darnold that they would regret. The writing was on the wall with Teddy. Even if we go 0-17 with Darnold, would 5-7 wins with Teddy be better?

I don't think the hope in Darnold is nearly as overrated/overblown as our hope in the offensive line. As bad as Darnold is/was, the sum of the current Panthers OL is probably a lot less.

I believe you mean, "Let's see if he can stay healthy."

Yeah, there is no reason to go nuts until we have more of our core secured.

There has to be some mutual interest for either of them, IMO. I doubt Rodgers is going to play anywhere other than Green Bay or a Cali based team. If he was traded somewhere else, he'd likely just retire. Wilson has mild ties to the area but his wife is unlikely to want to stray too far from the West Coast given her industry. Also, I don't think Wilson is very serious about wanting to leave Seattle. I suspect that is very much more a case of him voicing some general frustrations rather than him trying to force a trade. While we have turned over a new leaf as a franchise, I don't think you will see us be much of a prime location for many big free agents or NFL stars until we show some stability and success. It's a process to get there and we are very much in the infancy of it.

Rodgers and Wilson are looking for wins or locations. I don't see us on their potential location list nor on their list for ready to win now teams. Watson is a possibility but probably a rather slim one at this point. Just depends on how serious it gets for him. I think legally he comes out fairly clean because he has access to the rich people justice system but the court of public opinion isn't so kind.

I am going to start judging regular people in real life on their sack production.