kungfoodude

McVay has created the push to find the next young offensive genius. It's an oversimplification of why McVay has been successful. Brady isn't Sean McVay. Most of these "young offensive geniuses" aren't.

Not sure I would say that Brady isn't a QB whisperer if he couldn't turn a backup(Teddy) and a bust into something they haven't been. Is Sean McVay a bum because he couldn't get more out of Jared Goff? There are ample reasons to avoid hiring Brady as a head coach, but not being able to rehabilitate broken players shouldn't be one of them.

Figure skating? EA Sports Scott Hamilton 2021?

If that was the "real life" results, it would probably be one of the greatest draft classes in NFL history

The only non-scrub loss was Okung and he wasn't healthy enough to move the bar this season even if we did bring him back(which we rightly didn't). The point being that the hope was that we upgraded over the guys we played(Miller, Scott, Reed, Schofield, Daley, Little, etc). I don't expect that Erving/Elflein are going to be much of an upgrade, nor does really their performances up to this point in the NFL indicate that(similar to last year's non-Okung signings). Everything about them indicates they are journeyman depth guys and not NFL starters(hence why they have been jettisoned by multiple teams). The draft isn't that much different. We took a shaky but athletic OT that likely isn't capable of being a starter at LT. Then we took fliers on couple of 6th round or lower OG's. In what was considered to be a very strong IOL class, that was extremely disappointing. Overall, I suspect we are going to net mainly depth guys or players that aren't likely to be on the roster more than a season or two. I am fine with improving the depth on the OL and the versatility of the FA's is excellent for that purpose. However, I am not seeing that either OG guard spot is improved nor certainly the situation at LT resolved. I get putting on the fan shades and wishing for the best. I also want all these moves to work out. But I cannot simultaneously turn off my brain and ignore the obvious flaws in what appears to be the 2021 Panthers OL strategy. Ultimately, I don't think the Panthers FO and coaching staff probably share my view of the importance of having a good(or great) offensive line.

Yeah, I honestly was hoping for the first time in forever that we were going to take the OL seriously and make some needed moves. Needless to say, I was disappointed in what we ended up doing and the way we ended up doing it. I just hope these FO guys prove to be geniuses and make our skepticism look completely foolish. I'd rather look foolish and enjoy success than be right and watch the team look like dogshit.

They were definitely better than I expected but I attribute that to a couple of things, the addition of Okung and also the Brady offense which revolved around getting rid of the ball quickly(Teddy actually deserves credit for this to, whether we want to give him credit or not). Still, even "better" was in the 16 to 26 range, depending on what metric you are grading them by. I am very skeptical of this version of our OL because I wasn't a big fan of our new free agents(basically backups, IMO...which we admittedly needed too) and I thought our attempts to upgrade in the draft were rather poor overall. But, if we can simply get 1-2 solid starters out of all these moves, it would make a huge difference in my thinking. I actually like Moore better than Brown. Brown is fuging ENORMOUS but he is probably gonna be a bit limited in what he can do overall because he isn't going to be able to move like anyone else on the line. Definitely don't expect to see him handle speed rushers well or be out on the edge pulling.

This isn't a Madden conversation??

Don't forget about Scott. I am not sure he doesn't ultimately beat out our new free agents.

I am not saying it doesn't happen but I don't think every team is doing that anymore. Remember, the NFL was a lot more wild west only 20-25 years ago than it is now. Every single aspect of these guys lives gets broadcast everywhere. Harder for them to cover up shenanigans and keep it away from the media.

Still expect Christensen to ultimately be a guard.

Horn sort of has to have an immediate impact as a #8 pick. I don't mean that as in being an All Pro player(although that would be great). He just needs to be able to start the whole season and not be a problem. I am trying to lower my year one expectations for him because traditionally CB's struggle for a couple of seasons before the light comes on. If he is simply average in the first year and shows flashes of being great, that will be a great start.

Greg Little??? I am not sure that writer knows our roster well.

I have some employers that have but it is a rarity and somewhat required for them. Either way, I would hope we wouldn't take a guy that we would think needs that kind of counseling. I am sure the organization believes whatever issues he had were behind him.

I kind of doubt that. Not sure that would be the most professional way to start their relationship. Frankly, if you believe you HAVE to say that to him, you just simply don't draft him.

I hope we have. It is a rough unit, without a doubt. That was why I was so down on our draft. This appeared to be such a great OL draft.

Bad loss to a bad team. Never something you want to take. Circle the wagons and win in the finale. Otherwise we definitely give up that #1 overall seed.

Well...I don't disagree with that sentiment however most regular employers don't have programs for their employees that fug up.

The level of dumb homerism in this thread with zero knowledge behind it is amazing.

I puked in my mouth a little bit.

Dude....the fact that people think this line will be better than last year absolutely stuns me.

I puked in my mouth a little.

I agree with that sentiment. There is no question some of his struggles had to do with his mismanagement in NY but a portion of the blame lies with Darnold. His time in Carolina will tell whether the greater portion of blame lies with the Jets and Gase or with Darnold himself.

He has basically gotten chased from two teams. He just isn't an NFL player. Not all of these first round guys are.

Yes. Josh Rosen. They pulled the plug even more quickly on him and he is tracking quickly towards being out of the league.