kungfoodude

I think ultimately Stroud passes the "eye test" so it's a matter of whether he will get it together again. Would a change of scenery help, etc? If he keeps declining, you have to wonder if he was just a flash in the pan early. That can happen to rookies. Poor Bryce......it's just hard to really pin anything down that he does well. If you really start breaking down individual QB specific abilities, it's hard to say he does anything at even an average NFL starting level. I think Bryce's leash ends up ultimately being shorter because he just doesn't have the advantage that CJ does with coming out of the gate hot in his rookie season. Also, DC didn't draft him and has already benched him.

That depends on the look of the season. If things are looking like a divisional run, maybe we should be buyers(this is heavily dependent on scenario). If things are looking like it's all falling apart, we should be unloading as many bad assets as possible.

Or DJ Johnson? XL is likely a 5th as a CEILING not a floor.

It's a little early to be drinking(unless you are tailgating). But they do basically split the two metrics, so it's a sinking/floating turds argument.

That's the danger of getting guys close to retirement or should have already retired. But then you turn around and hire an even less qualified and capable guy than him.

And now UNC is the utter laughingstock of all of those same programs that were "good for PR." How do you think that is gonna work out for recruiting? How do you think BB is going to handle something that he has never had to in his life, negative recruiting?

You know, I would probably ask the AD and alum that fuged up the current hire so badly. They are supposed to know, right? Oddly, that didn't work out, did it?

College homers are the absolute worst, I swear. Pro sports homers can't touch it.

He didn't go through camp with them and is still a 3rd or 4th option, at best. Not to mention that is the 30th ranked offense at 145.7 yds passing/game. If people here(or there) thought he was going to waltz in and repeat his Panthers performances, it wasn't happening. He is/was our best option and that would only be the case in Minny if about 3-4 more guys get knocked out for the year.

You are missing the entire point of why everyone is dunking on you in this thread. Literally the entire point.

I don't think much of Darnold at all but he is better as a QB than McCarthy has been so far. Crazy small sample size but....those games were not good at all.

I think the biggest issue is that our track record of these big swings during the Tepper era has been abhorrent. Maybe consider people that love football and are good at it?

If McCarthy keeps looking like this, that AT trade is going to be a pretty small concern in comparison to the others.

XL, Jones and Wonnum out might be a blessing in disguise. If the new guys can continue to show promise, maybe Jones/Wonnum can be relegated to being the rotational/situational guys. XL.....that's better off being a long term benching.

Yeah, we will see what happens, I guess.

IDK about that. I am not seeing many wins on that remaining schedule.

Pretty sure he can't stop the run either.

Well, that is the point. That WAS the sell. That isn't what we ended up getting.

Depends on what you view as a needle mover. I think the offense would be definitively better with AT involved. Better enough to string together a bunch of wins? Highly unlikely. Luvu didn't want to be here. Which, coincidentally, neither in the end did AT.

Eh...I am not gonna call anything after one draft. It looks slightly better so far but I am not prepared to say good.

Yeah, upon review, this is correct.

This ain't the first time that has been throw around in here. It's funny every time it comes up. WeLl ThEy ArE pRoFeSsIoNaLz!!! YoU cAn'T dO aNy BeTtEr!!!!! I mean, I can't do much worse either, right? I could have told you Bill Belichick was a bad hire, and I did when it came up. I could have told you Matt Rhule was a bad hire, and I did. I could have told you that XL was a bad pick, and I did. Etc, etc. It's the idea that far too many fans CAN come up with better and more reasonable solutions that infuriates us.

Fan belief in him is substantially less important than his belief in himself. That seems to be the issue at the moment, he has very little of that.

There isn't 5 pages worth of discussing AT in Min. I think it just happened the normal way, someone brought up Bryce being at fault in reference to past AT/current WR performance and then the anti-Bryce contingent started in on the homers. Pretty much the usual.