kungfoodude

I think I can speak for everyone when I say that I hope he is our LT and plays well. Having that roster hole plugged after so many years would be amazing.

Special Teams guys are usually athletes. I gotta be honest, I just don't think he is gonna be a guy that makes it in the NFL. He has elite speed.....for a DT.

I think the bulk of these guys are likely PS candidates more than roster candidates.

Yeah, I know we have a small contingent of dedicated Paddy Fisher fans but he also had a 3.36 RAS. The odds of him making any NFL team are slim to none. LB's that are that poor athletically just don't make it in the NFL anymore.

If we can get him in the $15-20 mil range, I am 100% down. If it ends up being more than that, it will depend on the contract structure.

Those guys are a little different because they are size/speed freaks. Either way, I am happy to have Spiderman on the team.

Kyle Trask is still garbage.

Chinn was also not particularly stellar in coverage last season. So, there is some reason to think he might have some growing pains.

I think you are confusing "overpaying" with "market value." Was CMC an overpay??

Same.

Depends on the supporting cast. He generated so many pressures last year but we couldn't cover and the rest of the DL wasn't always doing their part. If our secondary improves(on paper it should) and our front seven improves(on paper it should), then he should finally start finishing these sacks.

The worst part is that instead of being a 10+ win team, that year directly led to a complete roster teardown and sent us plummeting into the NFL cellar for what is now a multi-year stint. It's pretty unreal to think that after 2015 and that 15-1 season, we have now gone 34-46 since, with only one winning season in that span.

Smoked wings are one of the most underrated foods in existence. They completely destroy standard fried wings.

That was one of the worst teams in Carolina Panthers history. They were much worse than their record indicated. Not many squads have so clearly mailed it in while wearing the jersey.

Most of those guys on your list are not likely to get second contracts here for a variety of reasons. And, quite honestly, you are just wrong about Moton and his abilities.

If this hypothetical coin had three sides, yes. Mainly because it may only take a few things changing for that to happen. I think we will be better than in 2020(not a high bar to hit) but I think it could go really anywhere on the scale for how much better because there are only a couple of a returning players and they are all young or have question marks.

Not to mention....the salary cap is projected to EXPLODE in coming years with this new TV deal being inked. These contracts that seem excessive are not going to look that way at all in 3 years.

The staff even acknowledged that Christensen is basically a guard. Talking about letting a top OT in the NFL go IN HIS ABSOLUTE PRIME for a third round utility lineman with zero NFL experience, is pretty crazy. I genuinely hope we re-sign Moton because it is going to be pretty fuging angering to have to dish out "I told you so's" when Moton is playing at a high level elsewhere while we struggle at OT.

I remember how hype everyone was(including myself) about that unit. That front 7 looked amazing........on paper.

Fair but you have to be sold on Fields and it just doesn't sound like our FO and staff was. Right or wrong, I definitely don't want them picking a guy they don't believe in because it makes financial sense in the long term.

Okay, well let me give you a plausible scenario for 2022 if we DON'T sign him. You have a roster filled with solid to mediocre backup offensive lineman and now need five starters(last year of Paradis is 2021). Right now we have one very good OT in Moton, one starting quality center and then a mix of busts, journeymen and rookies. So, no Moton and no Paradis means we may very well be facing needing an entire starting offensive line in 2022.

I would say I wouldn't be at all surprised if our secondary is only a minor upgrade from 2020, a moderate upgrade from 2020 or a massive upgrade from 2020. All of those are equally plausible scenarios to me. In fairness, Jackson could continue to be injury prone, Horn could basically be a standard rookie, Bouye could prove to be over the hill and our promising group of young backups could all prove to be mostly depth guys and little else. If any one of those things happens, it limits the ceiling. For us to be a GREAT CB unit in 2021 a lot of things have to go really well for us. I don't think we specifically need that to happen for the long term. If we can see Horn show he clearly was a top 10 caliber prospect(even if he is up and down), and then 1-2 of our other young guys show they can be a #2 or #3 starter for a few years, I'm good. That shows a bright future at the position.

Yes. In 2019 our defensive line. On paper, it was supposed to be one of the most talented and dominant in the NFL. In reality, it was one of the worst we have ever fielded.

So you believe you have a better grasp of what we did on defense in 2020 than say, Phil Snow? Because Phil Snow specifically said that Chinn was a starting linebacker in 2020 but "...then we have packages where he plays in the back row, in the secondary." Interesting flex.

Completely disagree. We only have two bloated contracts on the roster currently(CMC and Shaq) but without Moton we are going to be bad for quite some time.