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It's genuinely starting to feel like a curse. Maybe it's that black cat outside the stadium? Or maybe it was Jeans Friday?

Peppers is definitely a first ballot HOFer.

I think it is way to early to even say that about Burns. He may yet flourish into a complete and dominant pass rusher rushers get much better in run support. He is just a third year player, keep in mind. And he spent much of year one in the Rivera doghouse.

That literally has zero to do with either my post or the post l am responding to. Nothing.

I would actually say that Burns is the only one in that top shelf category. Reddick is in the "potential" category only because he was a bust until his contract year. The raw material is there but you always have to be suspicious of a guy that blows up in the last year of his contract. That is why I love the contract we signed him for. Excellent prove it deal. Jones has been a quality starter in the NFL for years but definitely not an elite player. I would say a good player but I don't know if I would say he has a ceiling that can get him into that top shelf group at 29. It's possible but unlikely. And, ultimately, I don't think that it matters. If he was just what he was in TEN, it will be a big upgrade and he will be a starter and contributor for us. Derrick Brown is high in potential but very low in reps on the field. I'd put him in that "stud potential" group until he more consistently shows it on the field. He is our best candidate to ascend into that group in the next 1-2 seasons. I would honestly split that "Above Average" group out and put the "Stud Potential" guys slightly above them. I don't think most Above Average players have Stud Potential, being my logic behind that. Say, for instance, Jones is Above Average but Derrick Brown has Stud Potential.

CMC is a long shot just because of the general longevity or individual/team success requirements at RB. That is a really competitive group to get into the HOF through. Not to mention, the shift in overall offensive philosophy for this NFL era may lead to a lot less RB's getting in as a whole(TBD). He is the only player we have tracking towards being in the discussion, however. All the rest of these guys are waaaaaaaaaaaaaay to young to even speculate on that sort of thing. Gives a real appreciation for how young the roster is when you look at it from that perspective.

I think if a miracle happens(and it seems like it would take that) and Perryman can stay healthy, you will see an instant boost in our LB corps. He seems to be the highest ceiling LB we have on the roster(not playing safety).

Curious to see if Bouye has much left in the tank.

By all means, pile on the doubt, in that case. @ellis Post an article listing our LB's and don't include him.

Fair point. That was actually that idiot's post in your post I was reading. Try to calm down. I am just pointing out that stats need context, especially the dumb one he pointed out. For instance, Cam Newton's career low in INT's was actually the 2019 season. Something strike you as odd about that stat? How about the stat that his second lowest INT total in a season(technically a tie with 2015) was 2020. Guess he crushed it in 2019 and 2020, right? See how that works?

This will sound like an excuse for someone being wrong and it really isn't, but none of the rumors of him should probably surprise anyone. Racist? Maybe not vehemently but we heard some of the rumors. Sexist.....clearly so. Also.....this dude was born in 1936 in the South. Wouldn't it be kind of surprising if he wasn't racist and generally out of touch with how to react to women in the workplace? Again, that is gonna sound like an excuse but there kind of is a point where I just don't understand why people are mock or real shocked by this. It kind of fits the profile of the era and the place. I am certainly glad he brought the team to Charlotte, even if he proved to be far from a perfect person. I don't think he was any sort of monster, just an old and out of touch old man, of which there are untold millions of still out in society not too different than he is(minus the obscene wealth).

Go back and read your posts.

Fair enough but you are also taking up his argument through me. I didn't try and refute the statistics(which are actually stats) I posted. You did. I get it though, you are just secondhand butthurt.

He is on my ignore list. I don't see his posts.

It is highly unlikely he(Darnold) will not miss time, so this will be something we have to deal with. Especially if the OL doesn't dramatically exceed expectations.

I see. You don't know what "rate" means. That clears this up.

No, you are literally inventing something that isn't real. His TD:INT ratio and his INT% both were worse than 2019. So to say "....his INT rate went down each year..." is literally NOT accurate. Did his interception go down? Yes. Take a guess why? It was the lowest passing attempts of his career. That's what I am saying. Don't invent a stat that isn't real for the purposes of cherry picking. That is classic poor use of statistics.

So you don't like them because they didn't like BC?

Discussion is fine but cherry picking stats is fruitless in this scenario because the overwhelming bulk of his stats are so clearly negative. It isn't even a case where you can pull small bits of data out to support a good statistical argument. He has been pretty bad to date. That's why I don't get this specific urge to paint a scenario that isn't reality.

Frankly, the stats horse has been beaten to death. There is no purpose to cherry pick stats for him. The only thing that will change minds is games played in a Panthers uni. Until that happens, he is who he has been.

I actually look at the statistics. It does help quite a bit. I understand the need to cherry pick for a player with some pretty bad career statistics. It is what it is.

Yeah bit likely none that can play at above a below average NFL level. That is really the concerning part. But, perhaps there is more cream there than it appears.

That write up on Erving sort of illustrates my overall point about he and Elflein. They are good quality backup players. The issues becomes when you try to have extended periods of them starting. Neither has had much success so far in those situations.

Talent and maybe even more so, experience. We are leaning heavily on VERY young players.