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I just don't think he is capable of fixing his issue with processing. Typically a rookie would struggle with that and steadily improve over a season or two(or three sometimes). He isn't any better than he was in his rookie year, maybe even worse. Normally the guys that struggle with that aren't in the league very long. I think his best bet is to spend an extended period of time as a journeyman backup QB in the NFL. If he can hack that, maybe it will eventually just start to click enough for him to a solid player in a few years. It's obvious field time isn't improving him at all and especially with the OL situation we have. That is something even a competent and capable veteran would have issues with. He isn't either of those so it's almost an impossible task. It's tough to watch as a fan, that is for sure. I suspected he would fail here under these conditions but it's been worse than I thought. It sucks because he is so talented and he seems like a nice guy.

I am not sure we will be "splash" active in the trade market prior to the deadline. The question becomes who do you go get? The obvious answer is OL but Fitterer has stated that he can't even get teams to come off backup OL. But, if you are trading away assets to get more draft capital, that sort of indicates tanking incoming. Every trade we made so far was a "win now" trade not a draft capital trade.

Before you go annointing Willis, you might want to put on the tape from last year of his losses. It was not pretty. Here is a name that actually intrigues me.....Kenny Pickett. Worth a later round flier if available?

Emezie is not even a PS caliber WR. Knight is an NFL caliber player.

Darnold is likely done here already but what "done" means could get interesting. We picked up his 5th year option(a decision I am sure everyone in the organization is regretting now) which is fully guaranteed. So, trading or cutting him doesn't make a lot of sense. It is VERY possible, if not likely that he sticks around for that 5th year. I suspect it would be as a backup, because I cannot fathom Rhule wanting to put his future in Sam Darnold's hands again. Which.....were he not getting paid almost $19 mil next year.....Sam Darnold would be a decent NFL backup QB. Honestly, he might actually eventually start to improve a little with a few years holding a clipboard.

We would be getting perhaps a generational DE, in that case. I could get behind that.

Hard to blame the defense when they produced the bulk of the points we had and were on the field 10+ minutes more because of how badly the offense shat the bed. Not to mention the short fields due to boneheaded INT's and bad fumbles. If you didn't notice in the 4th/OT, they were fuging gassed.

Also, since we are on the subject of Teddy not being able to throw it deep: Passes over 20 yards(source is NFL Next Gen Stats) Teddy 2020 8/17, 250 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT. Passer Rating: 88.48 Teddy 2021 5/15, 172 yards, 1 TD. Passer Rating: 99.86 Darnold 2021 9/24, 284 yards, 1 TD. Passer Rating: 96.53 Boy those 2020 and 2021 results seem pretty similar......

You are wasting your breath arguing with the resident Darnold superfan. Logic and statistics are lost on him. He just sees his hero being mildly attacked and he goes into a frenzy.

It isn't half the time. Teddy has started 55 games, Darnold has started 44 games. Remember Teddy was out of the league for a while with that leg injury. Also, I don't mean to be flippant but this drive that everyone was crowing about was a losing effort. That wasn't a game winning drive. Glad to see it but it would have made more of an impact if it wasn't preceded by 3+ quarters of shitting the bed. If anything, it is a microcosm of his career. 75% awful and 25% great. It's why he has failed so miserably.

This is actually the better breakdown. Passes over 20 yards(source is NFL Next Gen Stats) Teddy 2020 8/17, 250 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT. Passer Rating: 88.48 Teddy 2021 5/15, 172 yards, 1 TD. Passer Rating: 99.86 Darnold 2021 9/24, 284 yards, 1 TD. Passer Rating: 96.53

IDK about that. He is literally one of the only players on that defense that shows any leadership capability. Not sure we should jettison that so quickly.

@Harbingers Passes over 20 yards(source is NFL Next Gen Stats) Teddy 2020 8/17, 250 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT. Passer Rating: 88.48 Teddy 2021 5/15, 172 yards, 1 TD. Passer Rating: 99.86 Darnold 2021 9/24, 284 yards, 1 TD. Passer Rating: 96.53 Relatively similar results, honestly. Sam definitely taking more shots downfield which isn't surprising.

Let me take a look at Darnold and Teddy's deep passing through six games and see what the stats say.

I'll give you a hint, look at the first post in the thread.

I believe that Brock still holds the NFL record for $/GM in NFL history. Edit: It might be $/snap. I can't remember which.

You mean the red zone stats that led to losses, kind of like these stats that are leading to losses? I bet you can't guess how well Teddy was doing through 6 games in 2020.

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You mean the drive after 4 quarters of nothing that resulted in a loss?

Brock Osweiler says hey.

That's actually a great comparison and a great point.

Lol. Yeah, Darnold is really bad but people forget some of the poo we have seen at that position in our history.

I would say that having a better OL would be the fix but he struggles as much or more when he has time to throw. Case in point, that INT to start the Vikings game. He has what, 5-6 seconds? Everyone was covered and he tries to force the ball throwing across the field in a position that any college QB knows you can't throw that ball. That's the issue with Sam Darnold. There is absolutely no evidence he is learning or improving his decision making or processing.