kungfoodude

Yeah. I was hoping we would see our young players be the answer and give me a little more hope. Maybe in a couple of years they will be there or maybe we will have filled those holes adequately.

You are aware that Lamar Jackson is a 64% career passer, right? Never thrown double digit INT's in his career for that matter. Notice how Cam has largely been a high completion percentage QB the past few years? Think maybe finally that might have to do with scheme differences? Oddly, Cam was able to get us to a Super Bowl. Funny thing is, he was the best QB in that game. Unless you really think Peyton Manning 141 yards, 2 TO's and 0 TD's really propelled them to victory. I suppose if that is your bar for "good enough passer to win a championship" maybe Kyle Allen is a good enough passer to win a championship? Hell, Nick Foles won a championship. Is he a "good enough passer?" If so, is Blake Bortles?

I mean, look, I guess at the end of the day I can't make you not stupid. Everyone has a right to be wrong.

The bulk of the younger and elite NFL QB's are all either mobile or running QB's. Hell, just look at this last NFL draft where the top 4 guys were Lawrence, Wilson, Fields and Lance. Only really Mac Jones is a relatively immobile QB. All the rest of those guys are athletes. The idea that mobile and running QB's can't win Super Bowls is pretty absurd if you look at recent history.

Completion percentage is a good thing to keep an eye on. Captain Checkdown was stellar in this offense last year completing passes and Darnold is a sub-60% completion percentage guy in his career(high of 61.9% in 2019). Anything less than what you said(63ish) should be a big concern. We should expect him to be far more efficient in his first few games here, given how our offense is structured. As a gunslinger, I don't think he will will ever be a top QB in the league in that statistic but he shouldn't be near the bottom of the league like he was in NY.

Historically, if the Jets draft a QB, it's a pretty safe indicator he will be a bust.

Do you just simply not watch NFL football???

We have quite a few of those people in the Huddle now, as we always do. Player surfing isn't unusual. Think about all the Clemson or South Carolina fans that couldn't possibly give a poo about the Panthers but pay attention when we draft their players.

I mean, those guys can't come out and say poo like, "Well, we've really miscalculated and we probably should have done more in the offseason" or "Yeah, I just don't trust these guys to block for me but I'm mostly used to that in my NFL career."

But our veteran lineman are so.....ugh....

Yeah, the UDFA craze is as predictable as it gets in a Huddle offseason.

This is true. Same with Brown and Christensen too.

Well, we really should have addressed it in 2020 AND 2021. Had we done that, I think we are having a totally different discussion.

In this case, it was kind of the team that was hyping him.

If their confidence is based on Scott, we are in trouble. Scott did a decent job for being an unknown entity to most of us but he was not by an stretch a good offensive lineman. It is what it is. Not much we can do about it now is watch and hope.

That's really a separate discussion about that statistic specifically. Regardless, that is basically my expectation for the year, a slight jump in the overall defense from 2020, but a clear trend upward over time.

Well, not all rookie linemen seem to be struggling with that. Let's hope he flashes in the preseason or the rest of camp.

I can't really buy into that "normal/fine" idea for a 3rd round draft pick when we so clearly had massive OL needs. For him to not even be close to challenging some pretty poor starters is a big disappointment.

I am not going to take any pleasure in the seemingly inevitable "I told you so's" for that OL group. That is honestly why I have been so massively down on the offseason we had. This was our opportunity to really improve that unit with another deep interior OL group and a deeper than normal OT group in the draft. Instead, we drafted a guy that they don't even seem to have a clear idea what to do with, a 6th rounder and a UDFA that has already been cut. And that isn't even mentioning those idiotic Erving and Elflein contracts. I was hesitant to call our OL offseason what I actually though but I am pretty close to it......a fuging disaster. I am just not going to be able to wrap my head around why you would take a bad offensive line from last year, arguably make it worse this season and then bring in a QB that was a huge bust, in no little part due to poor protection. Maybe this is just some 7D chess that I just can't understand.

So, from what you have seen so far, is there anyone on the roster that seems to be threatening to Miller, Erving and Elflein's starting spots? I guess they are hyping Daley as a key 6th man, so that seems to say a lot to me. That indicates there is some significant separation.

Frankly, not much we have heard or seen seems to indicate Christensen is near a starting spot. He seems to be another in a sizeable group fighting for a meaningful spot on the two deep. I really hope Erving and Elflein pan out. If not, I think the staff and FO should be getting some really hard questions from the press next offseason.

If he got booted before some of the guys on that list, it must have been pretty bad. He went before the obvious camp bodies. That's pretty rough.

In fairness, that is probably as close to a win against Donald as you will get.

This was a little bit of a different case because we have such a terrible situation on the OL and this was one of their supposed "key additions" to help possibly shore that up, despite being a UDFA. It is disappointing mainly because now we largely look like we will be starting mostly the same unit as last year, save for two lower end journeyman starters/higher quality journeyman backup offensive linemen that we seem to be starting. The depth guys don't exactly inspire thoughts of one of them winning a battle to start over Miller, Erving and Elflein. Certainly another hit to the hopes of the contingent of Daley/Brown/Moore/Christensen supporters that thought they would upgrade our OL. Seems like every day those guys just seem to solidify why they aren't the guy. I had lower hopes for that group of rookies and young guys than most but even I am pretty disappointed in the early showing.