kungfoodude

I am not freaking out about him in camp and practices but he is not a rookie. That narrative is completely ridiculous. If he is struggling 5-8 games into the season, there will be no "oh well we just have to wait for him to get some experience" people outside some of our true dolts. It's gonna be Teddy 2.0 treatment. As I said before training camp even started, none of this really matters for Darnold, good or bad. We will know what Darnold is when the bullets are flying in a real game.

I would rather he have a shitty completion percentage that be heaving balls to the defense. Maybe it's not a great result but if he really is able to clean up his bad decisions, that's at least progress.

Excellent reaction. Might get a flag in a real game. Just a touch early.

As injury prone as he has been as a QB, I don't think he'd hold up to that grind at LB. Can't be worse than Whitehead though.

Abnormal historically but we may see this a lot more considering the shorter preseason and longer regular season. Without one? Sam Darnold has never played a full 16 game schedule at any point in his career. He actually does have a significant injury history.

Exactly. It's a process and we are much closer to the beginning than the end. I am absolutely pumped about our DL, I am cautiously optimistic about our secondary and our LB's......well.....I am sure they will get a participation trophy.

That is actually pretty funny.

If the QB is able to hold onto the ball for almost 5 seconds, we'd already be in trouble.

This is basically what I expected. That was why I thought that this "top 10 defense" stuff was nonsense. That secondary is largely very, very inexperienced players. It's gonna take some time before they are elite.

It doesn't need to be addressed. Everyone is well aware that fan enthusiasm isn't going to be high for a bust QB. As I said, it is what it is. The only thing that is going to change that dynamic is winning games and Darnold playing well. So, for the purposes of this thread, why don't we just close this part of the discussion?

Look, there is really no reason to beat the PJ war drums at the moment. He ain't selling poo for jerseys either, even if he was a starter. Darnold is the guy, plenty of us have qualms about that but it just is what it is. Let's not derail the practice thread with this stuff. Let's just save those for the umpteen Darnold or PJ threads we already have and the dozens yet to come.

Boy he better look sharp today.

That reminds me, I need to get a CMC jersey. I was supposed to get one last season.

Is that Tepper and Luke??? Sonofa....

DaQuan Jones getting released over Nixon/Hoskins??? Uhhh....not a chance.

Supposed to start at 8:30 AM unless that has been changed.

He was fairly effective last year. IMO, the biggest issue was continuing to invest in a developmental player that was 29 years old. By the time he may get completely proficient(which is really an if), he would be either nearing retirement or already had started losing a step. It sucked to lose him because he was such a great story but I don't think anyone can be upset with the guys we replaced him with. Our offseason DL additions were pretty fantastic, IMO.

The guy you are talking to isn't going to learn. Trust me, it's hard enough to just have a simple discussion with him and for him not to get emotionally invested in his arguments. This offseason added a lot of goofy people to this place.

Yeah, the injury part is somewhat true. But, we also loaded the roster with injury prone free agents(some of whom have already been injured at least once this offseason). I don't like the sitting them all, simply because I think the reps are valuable for young players. That said, this is also going to be the longest season in NFL history. While we may bitch now about this new trend of only playing backups in the preseason, more teams are going to be inclined to do that with these lengthened seasons. It will be interesting to see how the NFL responds as ratings and fan participation drop in the preseason.

At this point, I think the odds of Minshew coming here might be higher than Deshaun Watson. He has a lot of legal issues to get past and that is before the NFL does their investigation and punishment.

Not sure if you are aware but you are supposed to cull out the stats that don't support whatever narrative you are pushing. It's Huddle Logic 101. Just a list of coaches/records without any filtering is perilously close to factual information. We can't have that around here.

I hope it takes less time than it did with Whitehead to realize what a bum he is.

He seems to be manipulating what the narrative is for whatever purpose he wants. It's definitely interesting. I don't fault him for that. It's more amusing than anything.