kungfoodude

I think a genuine rift between Rhule and Fitterer would be a hard thing to keep a lid on. If there is any potential for this to get interesting it will be if that seat under Matt Rhule gets blazing hot during the season. If that happens, I am curious to see how Fitterer reacts to the guy who hired him possibly getting the axe.

I meant the "QB of the future" comment. They had little way of knowing if he really is/was that when he made that comment. There is no telling what their thoughts on that are now but I don't think even if they had doubts about his future here that they would be blasting him publicly. It's way too early to be making these kind of statements about any strife over a project player. If there is tension between Rhule and Fitterer, I would say it probably goes much deeper than Matt Corral.

Yeah but we also don't know how much of that was just "coach speak." Maybe there is a disconnect or maybe Fitt was saying what he had to.

Yeah, that's bad. We can't keep seeing that or it's going to be another long year of watching QB's get drilled.

It's possible but I would be surprised if the guy that Matt Rhule selected to be his assistant GM would flip on him that quickly. I don't doubt that perhaps Fitterer and Rhule don't agree on everything. I am not sure it is at the level of there being active tension. Especially over a 3rd round rookie player that was only likely to see the field if Mayfield hadn't been traded for and Darnold had been injured.

Well Elflein and Corbett appear on the worst five list is pretty bad. We can't afford to have more poor OL play.

Just a reminder to all the Rhuletards, you assured us the added new coaches would make Matt suddenly have some sort of logical ability. This is very clearly not the case.

The problem is that Fitterer ultimately answers to Rhule, unless something has changed. It may have but remember that was part of this original set up. Rhule has complete control.

Yeah, heavy grain of salt until the bullets are real. Not bad though.

I am gonna be at a beer festival in WI. I always get pumped for preseason, then watch about a quarter and remember it isn't real football.

Consider that was probably Browns gold. Now consider what our franchise is looking like recently.

Most likely true. Although we are certainly a troubled franchise, our playoff berths are typically deep runs.

This is easy. Huddle hot takes and overreactions.

Great stuff. Listened to it as I was driving through OH.

@TheSpecialJuan???

Yeah, why would we shop our Week 1 starter?

I think the Mayfield question is more complex than even performance. It will depend on Tepper's level of micromanagement and what the direction of the current/next coaching staff is. If Tepper is/was a Baker guy, I think Baker will be here. If the next coach is a Baker guy, he will be here. But if Tepper isn't a Baker guy and Rhule/new coach aren't Baker guys, he is gonna be gone. It would probably take an All-Pro performance in 2022 for the latter opinions to change.

Huge news.

I certainly haven't seen anything credible showing him "highly ranked" nor thought of in "NFL circles." If anything, he's an "incomplete" because he isn't a real GM. We have no idea what he is truly responsible for and what Matt Rhule is responsible for. I hope it's been a healthy dose of Rhule on the many bad moves we've seen.

Yeah, hence why I am wary of proclaiming Fitterer some sort of genius. He isn't a real GM and our moves have been equally good and bad. I hope to see him in a traditional GM role with our next coach. I think that will let us know if he is the guy or not.

The price was absurd. Not a smart move by Fitterer/Rhule.

Well, do remember that each Conference got an extra playoff spot now, it is actually a little easier to back into the playoffs.

It's all academic until we start playing games. I don't believe it's impossible to have a terrible season, especially had we been facing the spector of seeing Darnold for most of the year(you have to assume eventually Corral would get a shot in that scenario). My argument for the low win total projection is that our season's house of cards largely revolves around a bunch of "if's" panning out. If our OL improves, if our QB play improves, if CMC stays healthy, if our DL improves, if our LB's improve, if our DB's improve, if our OC works out, etc, etc, etc. I just don't see enough of those "if's" turning out our way in one offseason for us to make that next step up as a team. We will see. I am perfectly happy to be wrong and watch winning football again. I just don't view that as terribly likely.