kungfoodude

Well, this should be....something....

We have gone over that already, as well. If you want, cruise over to overthecap.com and take a look. As I also have discussed with you, the 2023 free agent class could be big. That list is quite deep. Obviously extensions can and probably will happen to whittle it down but it is far better than the 2022 FA QB class, on paper.

It is high. He is currently 33rd out of 33 in DVOA, 29th out of 33 in QBR and 31st out of 33 in QB Rating.

That is a lot of words that you are shoving in my mouth. You know we have had this exact discussion at least twice in the past few days, right? Did I not lay out exactly what I would do, were it my choice? And that was nothing at all like you are describing. As I have said, repeatedly, you don't reach on a guy. You believe in the prospect and go get him. And, yes, I was a Slater guy.

Weeelll....I think that depends on the situation with Rhule. I have given my choices umpteen times on here. What they will do is mystery. I would assume not the right thing based on their history. I am not saying there is a sure thing. I don't believe that at all. I am saying that reaching at QB doesn't often work out. You don't see many successful panic QB draft picks. Also, let me be completely clear, it is very possible when I am doing more detailed looks at this guys after the college football season that I may have a less negative view of one or more.

In the 2022 draft or the 2022 offseason? 2023 is TBD. Too far out to say conclusively.

Not sure, they usually haven't been healthy enough to find out.

But we didn't do that for Erving or Elflein. That checks out.

Bro....don't give up on the franchise like that.

Name another Panthers QB who is undefeated in their career?

I interpret this as "Brady Christensen is a massive mistake of a pick."

OMG....is this that numerology doofus?

That would explain the sole focus on defense.

They got Mayocked.

My grade would be C+. Some big blunders but I still attribute a big chunk of the overall blame to Rhule.

Boy that has some cringey comments in hindsight.

That is not even close to worth a second round pick. Nor is Darnold anything close to DA.

We poo the bed on his development?? He came to us as a three year professional STARTER. He had long since shat the bed. There was no development left.

Derek Anderson had been a Pro Bowl QB when we got him. Sam Darnold was a three time winner of "Worst NFL QB." So, how is that even a remotely good comparison?

Agreed. I don't recall any real reports of any other serious interest for Darnold. The Jets straight up fleeced us.

It is funny to blame the fans for selling their tickets when the franchise is unable to put a watchable product on the field with any consistency. The fact that we are seeing more opposing fans is that we have had a winning season since 2017. How about you show me a current NFL team with a similar losing streak that isn't seeing fans not attend games.

Hindsight? Hindsight??? Bro, I was on the "Hell No To Darnold" ship before that trade was even mentioned. Feel free to search this forum for those receipts. If I had whiffed on Stafford and Watson, I am scrambling for every veteran QB available at that time. Tyrod Taylor, Jacoby Brissett, Andy Dalton, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Jameis Winston, etc. fuging ANYONE that can be a mid to lower level starter in the NFL. Then I am looking at QB prospects in the draft. If I think Fields is the guy at 8, I take Fields. If not, draft Slater(wanted Sewell, FWIW) and see if there is another young QB to bring in through the draft(Davis Mills). If all that fails in the draft, start looking at guys like Trubisky to bring in on cheap one year deals to create a competition. So, none of that was difficult go accomplish. None of it. Because I have multiple options to pursue, regardless of what is available. But, these guys? They trade three draft picks for a talented but well proven bust. Then they double down by signing his 5th year option. How about this, name a QB needy team in the 2021 offseason that flubbed it as badly as ours at the moment?

Yeah, he is so bad that 3rd string is likely where he slots right now. IMO, he will go to one more team as a backup and then be out of the NFL.

Rhule has final roster decisions. My ultimate guess is that Rhule is largely the architect during the offseason, when he has time to deal with player evaluations. Fitterer is largely responsible for the mid-season moves, where Rhule is consumed by trying to finish "How to be an NFL Coach for Dummies" during the week.

You have a player that was a massive bust that is on a cheap, on year prove it deal. Then you immediately pay him a large guaranteed salary with the most interaction with him being over Zoom. Super, super, super not smart. What makes it worse? The fact we gave up multiple picks for him.