kungfoodude

Yeah, it is very possible the next QB taken after Ward/Sanders is the 3rd round.

Lol. I mean, I don't think we have a choice on the time given. I just saw nothing that made me think this is headed for success. We will see. He needs to really come out and show some very improved hands.

It's infuriating. A bunch of amateurs better than a multi-billion dollar organization.

Yeah, I mean....I don't really think we have a clear idea of the track record for development for these guys yet.

Mingo is gonna be out of the NFL in about a season. This is sort of the issue with us. I mean, we have seen what a top 15 WR looks like recently. Is there anything that all about XL that reminds you of DJ as a rookie? Not me. Not at all.

Yeah, it was objectively not a good year by just about any measure. Look, I wish it was different, that's for fuging sure. But, he is who he is and you might as well steel yourself for the likelihood that this doesn't appreciably get better.

https://www.foxsports.com/nfl/stats?category=receiving&sort=rec_drops&season=2024&seasonType=reg&sortOrder=desc He was tied for 2nd among rookies and was tied for 13th in the NFL. 7 of the guys before ahead of him had even less targets.

Did he not lead all rookies in drops, as well? I get looking at the bright side but there wasn't much bright about XL's year aside from him definitely being better as a route runner than expected.

Probably because he didn't really appear to have above middling college football player's ability to track and catch the ball. Also, if he was REALLY that dinged up, take every South Carolina player off the board for the foreseeable future. IDK WTF they are doing down there but I don't want anymore glass players.

I think the story for Brooks as a Panther has already been written. So with a 2nd round pick, we have a guy that will likely leave the team with less than a season of games total played. XL could turn it around but I suspect his sophomore year is gonna be pretty rough. That is usually the time players often struggle, even after they popped as a rookie. We have seen this over and over. If this trend goes forward and especially if Wallace doesn't become a league average starter, that draft is every bit as bad as the worst Fitterer drafts. I really, really, REALLY hated that draft at the time(minus Sanders) and unfortunately it isn't looking very good to date. I hope we turn it around this time but, TBH, I see the seeds of failure with the way our draft is currently set up. 8th is prime for a bad reach and then we don’t pick until 57. If we are smart(outside of a real elite guy dropping to 8), we maneuver to get 3 picks in the top 60.

Hunter, McMillian, Johnson. Maybe Graham, not 100% sold on him as a top 10 elite guy yet. Literally that is it so far. Maybe someone really makes a rise but I rather doubt it. Hence why I am on team trade down if we get pick up another 2nd and some 3rd/4th round picks. I am convinced the best move for us is trading down and that is even considering that our front office is overwhelmingly the worst in the NFL.

I still think we should have kept Fitterer rather than fire him. Ask him his top 2 guys on the board every round and immediately remove them from our board entirely.

No, go BPA(to a point). Get good players. That is how you become a good franchise. You can kiss the idea of this being a top 20 defense goodbye before free agency and the draft. There is nothing to rebuild, we have to build. That doesn't happen in an offseason.

This is basically how you have a Fitterer/Rhule draft. Reaching for need over just getting good players. EDGE is loaded and with very questionable elite talent. If you want to go EDGE, that's an easy trade down, IMO. Pick up another 2nd, at least.

Not strong on #1 guys outside the top 3-4 guys. Good slots, which we instead opted for a marginal 2nd rounder. Not really sold on Worthy as much more than a gimmick guy. I agree on Thomas Jr. For fugs sake, THAT is a trade up. Not that idiotic poo we ended up doing.

I am nervous to tinker with the OL because I have very little faith in the roster architects. Were that not the case, I would be fine with tinkering for the future. We are about to be in a spot where we need to determine the future of most of this OL. Ikey is due for a contract and he has been decent as a LT, so that has a price. Maybe he could have been an elite OG at a smaller price(Becton) but now you have two of the most expensive IOL in the NFL. We have no one above a league average at center and no viable prospects there. Moton is nearing the end of a large contract and is aging. So, in theory resting on our laurels could wind up really being a devasting blow to the OL it took years to finally construct.

This is the more common type of reporter overall in the US, not just in sports. It's not new but it is the overwhelming majority, which was not always the case. I haven't seen an industry be as destroyed by modern times as journalism in my lifetime. Maybe textiles.

I suspect it will be some very polarizing EDGE that has a top 15 to end of 2nd grade this year. That is sort of our Fitterer trend. Always try to outsmart the entire NFL, rather than just be good at the NFL.

Yeah, I mean he just kind of got dialed in at LT and I don't believe he played on the right side before. In theory, he should be able to. It doesn't always work out that way.

It would be a big chunk saved on the cap but you really need to be convinced that either Ikey can play RT or makes sense to use a top 10 pick on a RT.

I am not sure what sort of episode you are having right now or what meds you need to be taking, but I hope it works out for you.

He projects as a gadget option on offense in the NFL. Most of the experts seem pretty aligned on that view.

XL is trending bust. Brooks is a bust. Wallace is even money-ish. Sanders is trending positive. Smith-Wade is a surprise. Crumedy/Barrett are irrelevant. It's Fitterer to the nth degree. I fear we will see it again this season.

I am only gonna put up with one more Fitterer draft from him before I am done with it. He did well in free agency but our future can't be built on overpaying free agents, good choices or not.

He seems to be a 3rd/4th rounder right now