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I know but I am talking the whole totality. It's just...bad. Look, the physical skills still pop even at the NFL level. The throws he can make are absolutely bananas. But....he makes them too infrequently and the other decisions are so insanely bad.

TBH, he is kind of a one year wonder(natural red flag) and his skill level has never even this past year matched his production. He was also a very "sugar or poo" guy. Either he was dominant or he was nonexistent. It's a little tough because Penn St. has such a crazy history of guys being busts or being utilized completely differently than their NFL fit. He just scares me a lot and I really, really want nothing to do with him at #8. Give me him as a trade down at 15-32, brother I am all in.

I disagree generally. He was SOOOOOO bad on tape. His misses were by a country mile, much like they are in the NFL. You couldn't possibly drop enough balls to justify a sub-55% completion percentage especially when that has historically been a fairly decent indicator of lack of NFL success(as in, rarely do you get MORE accurate in the NFL). Richardson seemed like a Cam Newton/Kyle Boller hybrid to me.

IMO, Carter. I just do not buy into him at all. I do realize I am at risk of looking foolish but I just do not see the hype OTHER than physical traits. He seems like a poor man's Brian Burns, TBQH.

It's not necessarily less informative. The public only gets to see small amounts that matter. The interviews are a big deal if you do them correctly. Also, the combine tends to be an information bubble. So, if I see an Underwear Olympics MVP but had an underwhelming college career, does something on the tape pop out? Was he not being utilized correctly? Was there some issue that wasn't the players fault? Or is this an Ian Thomas practice MVP? The combine gives everyone an idea about the physical and athletic capabilities of an athlete but not necessarily how that translates to NFL success. That is a vastly more complex problem to solve. It involves tape study, player interviews/interactions, doing background research, etc, etc. The old school Al Davis "Combine Star" method does not work. At all. It's basically what we have done in Carolina for quite some time.

I don't think there is a guy at that position in that class of bust. Richardson has strong Jamarcus Russell vibes. I will never understand how people were fooled by him. I will say at QB Cam Ward is a little scary. He leans gunslinger, so the bust risk is just naturally higher, although his physical abilities are clearly the best in this draft at QB.

This is an eye of the beholder draft because of the lack of elite options, IMO. I think it might be one of the wilder drafts in the first two days.

How about good at football? How about likes to play football? How about wants to be the best at football? Seems like we mostly ignore those guys.

The copium being mainlined by our fanbase is sometimes a nearly fatal dose. Even known dipshit Mel Kiper could probably run this team better.

Yeah, this is called selective memory. Go back and look at the draft threads over the past decade. It's about 95% better decisions than our FO. But, by all means, continue to be cucked by poor decision makers. It's clearly working so well for us.

Mock drafts are generally pretty bad at the moment. They start getting better post-combine.

Depends on who else is available too but I would love to snag him for sure.

Graham is not actually a consensus top 10 guy.

It might actually be harder to fail as badly as they have than it is to be simply mediocre.

Did you not read the "Huddle consensus" part of this theory? That's the point. Huddle consenus has been DRAMATICALLY better than the actual Panthers Front Office for years now. Think about that.

Fitterer put the Hurney vs. Gettleman discussion so far in the rear view that argument should never come up again. Fitterer was steadily climbing to a Matt Millen level of suckitude.

You are thinking we would run this like Tepper's boys do.

It would be less of a mess than this organization has fielded under Tepper.

There aren't a lot of quality backup QB's available and none at this price. The QB FA market is a bunch of nothings and guys that will be getting paid for than Bryce. What we need is someone like Dalton that can be a decent backup QB and also a good mentor for Bryce. I saw someone mention Fields. I couldn't possibly think of many worse options. Not as cheap(probably) and one of the worst #2 QB's in the NFL, outside doing a good Taysom Hill impression.

Yeah, good luck with that.

The thing that makes me nervous about him is he seems to have invested very heavily into this online/media redneck persona versus seeing work. Now, that is obviously a perception versus reality thing but remember how impressed all of us were at the kind of workouts that Horn was doing in his first couple of seasons. He seemed to really, really pine for greatness and be a sponge for information. Now, could you possibly attribute some of his injuries to working out too much(see McCaffery, Christian)? Maybe. I am worried, and maybe unfairly so, that the bulk of the output we see for XL is somewhere between brand building and goofing off. Hence why I am worried maybe he just isn't putting in the work. TBH, his college career has ample evidence for this theory. We will see how it all shakes out. If we don't see much improvement over 2025, I think I will have all I need to make my judgement on the direction.

I would add that for OL and DL, TBH.

Yeah, and those are great but you have to hit on your drafted players ultimately. The hit in the UDFA ranks are just such a small pool that you are basically always chasing outlier statistics to attempt to win. That just isn't a successful model.

Ewers may very well end up as a Day 3 guy. Dart was okay at the Senior Bowl and Milroe was bad. This is the weakest QB draft since 2022.