kungfoodude

I hate to burst anyones bubble but this guy played 188 total defensive snaps in three years but 802 special teams snaps. If we do kick the tires, it's probably gonna be for that latter part.

I do believe that Evero gets canned before the end of the season and Capers takes over the D. I think the stage is set for Evero to fall on the sword for a 4-7 win season. Not saying it would be a set up but I do think if that transpires, the seat under DC might start getting pretty warm, rightly or wrongly. That's my read on Tepper. I am not at all excited nor am I dreading anything. I just have extremely low expectations so I am just waiting to see what this revision of the roster looks like. I FEEL like we are better on paper than last season's team but I wouldn't be remotely shocked if we were as bad or worse. Again, I do think this is the 2nd worst roster in franchise history overall. What will really make me happy is for some of the big questions to finally be answered(Bryce, Ikey, Horn, etc). I would like to see a real expansion of our core player pool(basically just D. Brown currently). I want to see a couple of hits in free agency and a couple in the draft. If we accomplish those things, I have faith that we are at least moving in the right direction after many, many years doing the opposite.

I am not so sure about that. I don't know that he is so soley offensively focused as winning focused. But, not really in a productive way. I get the impression he wants to be like Robert Kraft and take credit for "taking a risk on Bill Belichick" and being successful. His track record indicates that in the NFL and in his business life.

Jones ended up with a pretty tiny chunk of his contract. I suppose there is that. I think that was prior to the guaranteed money really going through the roof.

Yeah and it was a tough draft for QB's overall, in hindsight. Top 3 are Kyler Murray, Jones and Gardner Minshew. Not really blowing the doors off many with that class.

This is lacking a fairly considerable amount of context. For one, Adams(age 22) started 12 of 16 games, had 38 rec, 446 yds and 3 TD's on 66 targets(18 less, with 2 less games started). The main thing missing here is that the top two WR's for Green Bay that year combined for about 2800 yds and 25 TD's. Now if you want to throw a more accurate dart at Adams, take a look at year two. This year the production was spread around considerably and Adams didn't stand out from that pack(pun not intended). So, if XL struggles mightily this season, I would probably keep that comparison in your quiver to counter argue. I would suggest that I don't think that scenario is probably very accurate for most HOF caliber WR's taken in the first round over the past 15 or so years. Adams was the 89th pick overall, as well. A little different hill to climb than XL, although not massively.

Jones seems like the classic million dollar talent attached to a ten cent dome. Very Sam Darnold-esque. The talent is all there, the neurons are just not firing correctly to get all that talent into producing at an elite level. It happens all the time. Justin Fields is another great example of that.

I don't think Howell is fixable. He's just a Winston/Favre-esque gunslinger. It's not often those guys really change that. He has a decent ceiling, Baker Mayfield. That's basically the limit of his level of gunslinger and I don't think he can achieve that. He was just born in the wrong era(feel the same about Winston).

There is ample blame for all of this to go around but Tepper has a real short leash on head coaches and year two of significantly under .500 ball isn't gonna go well, IMO. Now, if I am in Tepper's shoes, I would already be looking past this year. Anything close to .500 is absolutely spectacular. Gotta let someone eventually have the opportunity to attempt to build.

Yeah, I mean I can understand the thinking behind it. At least between all the boneheaded throws/INT's you will get some wild completions and TD's. Ideally, you just have better than both.

His rep is much more of a speed/quickness guy than a power guy. He's an athlete/wrestler type. You aren't gonna see him chucking people like DB does for us.

Honestly, my money is on him getting canned prior to the seasons in an effort for DC to save face. Not suggesting Evero won't deserve it but technically that wasn't a DC guy, he was inherited.

Jake style, TO prone gunslingers are not en vogue in the current era. Offenses are more QB TO averse than in previous eras.

Can we please stop dinging up the OL boys?

From the actual source. They are ranked behind us because of the QB, Coaching and FO rankings. They list our roster as worse. Which, if you give me a composite score on the same scale, I probably would have them below us, as well. Their coach and probably FO will be gone before ours will. Their QB situation is potentially worse(a lot hinges on Dart). I will say if Ownership was taken into account, we might be squarely in last. Tepper is unquestionably 32nd.

Wilson and Baker are WAAAAAY more mobile than Bryce. He has some limited mobility but both those guys(especially Wilson) create those opportunities by scrambling around and getting guys open. Donovan McNabb, same thing. Bryce is nowhere near that kind of player.

Yes but it is far, far, FAR better for the players.

He is one of the worst 5 star QB's that KEPT GETTING PT that I have ever seen. It's flabbergasting he is in the NFL.

The Giants aren't even remotely comparable. We would kill to have the amount of talent that they do. On both sides of the ball. Now. I will say that the sources in this thread did have them ranked only 29th, so not that far from us. I think they are very heavily weighted towards the upper end of the scale in a head to head.

IMO, it's about 90% conference expansion and 10% NIL/transfer portal. It's mostly the old heads that complain about the latter. I get the thought process but I don't believe that is the real issue at all. Either way, I will come back when college sports collapses and retracts. I expect that will be inside 20 years.

Both those guys are far better athletes and have far stronger arms.

Agree to disagree. Dalton is a significantly different type of QB and he didn't play dramatically better than he did for either version of Bryce that he had. We will see what the future holds. I can promise this, however, if he doesn't pan out here, he will also not pan out elsewhere. Same as Mingo, TMJ, and all the other Panther WR busts before.

I think there is definitely some of that, no doubt. But those guys also tumble down the draft and you see guys from small schools fly up the boards. It's workouts and combines and all the other details that can make or break a player during the draft.

I wouldn't say we are random, we keep rinsing and repeating over and over and over. That basically makes the building blocks keep changing. You had Legos, now you got Erector pieces, Lincoln logs, etc, etc. I think that is the larger issue in terms of the perceived randomness. That said, it isn't as if we have a core group of players that are multi-year guys. Our long tenured vets are very few and far between.

The point largely being is that he was a far surer thing than XL, which says alot about that pick in the first place, IMO. Ladd fell for the reasons listed and also that a guy without exceptional size, reach and speed is rarely ever going to command a premium position. TBH, him being drafted where he was is a true testament to how good of a prospect he WAS viewed. Normally guys in his mold are mid-round picks.