kungfoodude

This is arguably one of the best free agent RB classes of all time. Unfortunately we made our play last year with Sanders. It's unlikely we will be buyers in that market because of the cap implications.

You also need polished WR's that get separation, run good routes ans make plays in space. Coleman doesn't tick all those boxes while some others that MAY be available might. It's BPA. If that Coleman at the time, by all means. But I don't want to see another classic Panthers reach on gamble in the 2nd or 3rd. Seen enough of those, thanks.

I think we have seen that Mingo needs to be upgraded. We don't have the luxury of assuming anyone on our roster is going to pan out. Most will not.

We need to be doing that, plain and simple. There is no position on this team that isn't a season or so away from a new starter due to age or potential free agency. We have some talent here but a lot of it was gathered in free agency on deals that were not long. The roster needs a concerted 5-7 year effort of doing better than average in the NFL Draft to start moving in a positive direction for a stable future. I don’t think most people completely understand how badly our roster has been mismanaged over the past decade. We have the smallest pool of team drafted talent in the entire NFL.

Wouldn't read too much into the Ickey situation. The truth is our starting IOL is abysmal and our backups at every position on the OL would largely not make any other team in the NFL. That unit needs a LOT of help. If we draft well for the next 3-4 offseasons, it's possible we can rehabilitate it into an above average unit.

The Bryce move may end up being the worst because of what we could have had(it will depend on DJ and the #1 overall picks career). The CMC trade was actually a good trade. That will probably be the most compensation anyone gets for a RB possibly in the next decade or more. I mean, obviously we squandered all the draft capital we got becuz Panthers. The Burns decision though.....that could definitely end up being the worst decision. There is actually a significant chance it's even worse than the Bryce deal.

LB. This was discussed a few weeks ago, IIRC.

I get what you are saying due to the depth but we have an insane amount of roster needs and are are in a full rebuild. It should be BPA all the way. We need talent, plain and simple. If it lines up with our immediate needs, even better. That's too often how we have historically done so poorly, pressed for a need when those positions had been picked over already. BPA all the way.

Sure but there is a difference between fan feelings and how a front office feels.

Sure. I don't disagree in theory but our team experience has been horrifying

Remember the intense "who was the worst GM" debates about Gettleman vs. Hurney? Those are dead forever. Fitterer so thoroughly lapped the field on that.

You basically alluded to that. That's creating a different sort of mismatch at TE. Not the same thing. There is a reason there aren't a lot of tall and limited possession receivers that are popular in modern NFL offenses. It's a different era. I don’t think this specific prospect offers much different than TMJ or Mingo.

Separation is critical in the modern NFL. It's great that he is sure handed but so is someone like McConkey who also gets separation with regularity. This smacks of Prime Cam "Get him tall WR's" strategy. The modern NFL thrives on separation and creating in space.

INB4 Gettleman-esque Tag and Cut.

I expect two tags and then he leaves in free agency when wd can no longer tag him. That is basically what I see transpiring.

40 time is distinctively different from the ability to separate. The tape will tell the story on that. I don’t love him as a prospect, TBH. Also, our history with FSU players is pretty bad. As I said in another thread, I am just fine never taking another FSU player again.

We are definitely going to run into many players that are just simply not interested in playing here.

He can. Even if he couldn't, it doesn't matter. The team needs playmakers at WR, whether Young is the QB in the future or not. I get the snark but our needs aren't changing no matter if Prime Cam was back there.

I am not sure really where BC fits. Honestly, probably as a starter in a zone blocking scheme, which doesn't fit with what we have built the rest of the OL for here. Ideally, he's a top tier backup if we had built our line properly.

Yeah, our IOL is a fuging mess. It's somehow worse than our OT's. It would be a little shocking to see us spend that kind of coin on an OG but I would understand if they are perhaps going all in on Ekwonu one last time at LT. Perhaps having an elite LG would be a big help. Either way, we have to upgrade that OL. That one of the biggest of the offseason.

That's a Madden trade. No one is biting on that in the real world, unfortunately.

I still call them the Redskins. Especially as they keep stinking it up. Can wash away the Snyder suckitude with a name change, queefs. Still the Foreskins.

FSU is changing their mascot actually. It's just one of their fans crying and blaming everything on the ACC.

If recent history holds, we'll trade up into the first round to take Malik Washington.

Sure. I'll accept went elsewhere after a rookie deal too. It still comes up zero. That's what I mean, the history of these busts turning it around is horrible. Predominantly because....well.....they are busts. You either figure it out or you don't. Doesn't mean he can't be a league backup. Doesn't even mean he might not be an eventual Geno Smith. But, it does mean he is what he is......a bust.